Ind vs NZ 3rd ODI, Mount Maunganui

[rollingstoned]

27 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

our team looks pretty disinterested. hectic schedule must be the main reason

They have been playing a lot of meaningless series lately. That Aussie series was squeezed into a packed schedule for no reason. 

[Lannister]

Just two years into ODI captaincy, dumbass Kohli has been exposed. 

[Rasgulla]

43 secs he completed that over  jaddu 

[Rasgulla]

nz creating unnecessary pressure lol 

 

choking signs are there! 

[Cricwala]

11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Younger pacers ko time hi kitna hua hai

Saini from his debut has become better with yorker n slower ball.

Thakur is avg.....arun cant transform someone who is bang avg

Khaleel, Siraj also have been in & out of national team and they still have consistency issues, pretty much bowling as they did when they came on scene. Saini is 27, has been in A team and on fringes of national team for few years now - shouldn't Arun as head bowling coach be monitoring all these young quicks and getting them ready for international cricket behind the scenes? If Thakur, Kaul are average, why hasn't Arun insisted on better bowlers for selection? Hardik, Shankar, Dube - have these guys benefitted from Arun's coaching or they are just working things out on their own as they go along?

 

Apart from Shami and Bhuvi, none of our bowlers really land the delivery on the seam. Knuckle balls, slower ball bouncers - many of our bowlers seem to lack these basic variations needed for LOIs. Even basic wrist position for out/in swing can be learnt. Our bowlers rarely seem to have plans for opposition batsmen. Arun has been at helm of bowling set up for 6 years, even coaches have a shelf-life. 

 

The way NZ tier 2 pacers have outbowled us in this ODI series should be a wake up call. Our entire coaching ecosystem, from junior cricket onwards needs a major shake up.

 

[FischerTal]

1 minute ago, Cricwala said:

Khaleel, Siraj also have been in & out of national team and they still have consistency issues, pretty much bowling as they did when they came on scene. Saini is 27, has been in A team and on fringes of national team for few years now - shouldn't Arun as head bowling coach be monitoring all these young quicks and getting them ready for international cricket behind the scenes? If Thakur, Kaul are average, why hasn't Arun insisted on better bowlers for selection? Hardik, Shankar, Dube - have these guys benefitted from Arun's coaching or they are just working things out on their own as they go along?

 

Apart from Shami and Bhuvi, none of our bowlers really land the delivery on the seam. Knuckle balls, slower ball bouncers - many of our bowlers seem to lack these basic variations needed for LOIs. Even basic wrist position for out/in swing can be learnt. Our bowlers rarely seem to have plans for opposition batsmen. Arun has been at helm of bowling set up for 6 years, even coaches have a shelf-life. 

 

The way NZ tier 2 pacers have outbowled us in this ODI series should be a wake up call. Our entire coaching ecosystem, from junior cricket onwards needs a major shake up.

 

In India, nobody is interested in developing good fast bowlers. 

[Stan AF]

Dude Saini, you should have gone for it man. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Cricwala said:

Khaleel, Siraj also have been in & out of national team and they still have consistency issues, pretty much bowling as they did when they came on scene. Saini is 27, has been in A team and on fringes of national team for few years now - shouldn't Arun as head bowling coach be monitoring all these young quicks and getting them ready for international cricket behind the scenes? If Thakur, Kaul are average, why hasn't Arun insisted on better bowlers for selection? Hardik, Shankar, Dube - have these guys benefitted from Arun's coaching or they are just working things out on their own as they go along?

siraj played wrong format 

Khaleel didnt bowl to his strength....

 

Shankar n dube werent bowler ....they were batsman who can bowl with min bowling skills

Hardik has improved a lot as bowler 

1 minute ago, Cricwala said:

Apart from Shami and Bhuvi, none of our bowlers really land the delivery on the seam. Knuckle balls, slower ball bouncers - many of our bowlers seem to lack these basic variations needed for LOIs. Even basic wrist position for out/in swing can be learnt. Our bowlers rarely seem to have plans for opposition batsmen. Arun has been at helm of bowling set up for 6 years, even coaches have a shelf-life. 

Landing bowl on seam cant be taught at this stage ....either u have young age or not 

Not every bowler will have all variation 

A bowler have been top notch in last few years.....2-3 bad games cant change it. 

1 minute ago, Cricwala said:

The way NZ tier 2 pacers have outbowled us in this ODI series should be a wake up call. Our entire coaching ecosystem, from junior cricket onwards needs a major shake up.

 

NZ 2 tier are bowling in their condition and we are comparing to away condition

Bumrah coming form injury 

Saini n thakur are inexperienced 

Shami looks a bit tired, same shami was terrific last yr in NZ

[velu]

19 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Just two years into ODI captaincy, dumbass Kohli has been exposed. 

 

he has shown his captaincy skills long back at your expense  

let kl rahul go but retained that motu  

[Mosher]

Thakur getting 

[rollingstoned]

Yea as expected this fellow is going to lose us the game with his innocuous pies. Aur ek manhus din jahan bjp b haar gai. 

[Sandeep99]

Thakurji showing his skills here... come on Shardy 

[Stan AF]

Nalla Peru vechhanga thakurnnu. NZ thaakku thaakkunnu thakkaranga

[Forever Indian]

Lol, as usual Thakur getting it in the As* from Grandhommo.

[NameGoesHere]

Yeh kya sootiyapa hai.  Thakur bose,dk.

[ssurenn]

Just now, Stan AF said:

Nalla Peru vechhanga thakurnnu. NZ thaakku thaakkunnu thakkaranga

namaku vandhu seruranga parunga 

[rollingstoned]

How the hell did shaw allow a 2 there?

[FischerTal]

shardul reminding me of the legend Ashok Dinda

[Mosher]

Poor from Shaw. Already looks like an uncle on the field. Needs to work on his fitness.

[Cricwala]

9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Landing bowl on seam cant be taught at this stage ....either u have young age or not 

everything can be taught. Gillespie was able to get Ishant to bowl just that tad fuller - something which the whole world could see, but somehow couldn't get across to Ishant - just that simple change completely transformed him as a bowler. 

 

If you are happy with Bharat Arun as a coach and think India can't do better, then we will have to agree to disagree. For me, he is bang average as a coach.