maniac Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Why are everyone assuming India will walk all over SA in their home? I think Kolpak is done and some of their main players are available and so is the quota system. They also have some big names at the helm now. Obviously India currently has the best bowling unit in history and for fans who knew what SA was in the 90’s this one is a joke but still they can be competitive. I would say a 1-1 in SA Adamant and Vilander 2 Link to comment
velu Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, maniac said: Why are everyone assuming India will walk all over SA in their home? I think Kolpak is done and some of their main players are available and so is the quota system. They also have some big names at the helm now. Obviously India currently has the best bowling unit in history and for fans who knew what SA was in the 90’s this one is a joke but still they can be competitive. I would say a 1-1 in SA saffer bowlers are definitely not finger friendly .. going to expose our hacks again even theor trundler lungi bowls 135-140+ Vilander 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Not that easy to defeat SA in SA. They whitewashed Pakistan with the same team. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 10 hours ago, maniac said: Why are everyone assuming India will walk all over SA in their home? I think Kolpak is done and some of their main players are available and so is the quota system. They also have some big names at the helm now. Obviously India currently has the best bowling unit in history and for fans who knew what SA was in the 90’s this one is a joke but still they can be competitive. I would say a 1-1 in SA World cricket needs strong SA that being said India has a chance in SA but will have to play well consistently to win as they did in Aus by negating their strong attack we have the attack to blow lineups if our batsmen score bare minimum to bowl at Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, Adamant said: Not that easy to defeat SA in SA. They whitewashed Pakistan with the same team. So Pakistan, one of the worst test teams going around, is your benchmark now? SL did win a series in SA, despite being at their weakest in test cricket. If we can't win now, we should pretending to be a string test unit. Beating sides at home is something we have been doing for decades. Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 With so many test matches and a packed int'l calendar plus the IPL in the next 12-14 months, even more imperative for us to have a larger pool of pacers. Cannot expect Bumrah and Shami to be playing all the formats and then be available for all the tests. Link to comment
Norman Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, Adamant said: Not that easy to defeat SA in SA. They whitewashed Pakistan with the same team. Pakistan are a crap team. Why don't you look at how Sri Lanka (another crap team) beat... scratch that... clean sweep them. Elgar Markram Rassie van der dusen Du Plesis Bavuma De kock Xxxxxxxx Rabada Maharaj Ngidi Nortje That batting line up is poor. Bowling is ok. We should beat them Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, Norman said: Pakistan are a crap team. Why don't you look at how Sri Lanka (another crap team) beat... scratch that... clean sweep them. Elgar Markram Rassie van der dusen Du Plesis Bavuma De kock Xxxxxxxx Rabada Maharaj Ngidi Nortje That batting line up is poor. Bowling is ok. We should beat them Yeah that Oliver guy actually picked up truck load of wickets vs Pak. He has gone Kolpak route now I guess. England also smashed them badly. SL got lucky with slower venues like Durban & Pt Elizabeth not Highveld ones like Ind & Pak got. Hopefully we also get to play at Durban this time. Should win Imo. Easiest of SENA tours atm. Norman 1 Link to comment
sscomp32 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 17 hours ago, Stan AF said: Away series in england and south africa means only one thing..... Corrected. :P Captain koi bhi rahe same result. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Suhaan said: World cricket needs strong SA that being said India has a chance in SA but will have to play well consistently to win as they did in Aus by negating their strong attack we have the attack to blow lineups if our batsmen score bare minimum to bowl at yes true. India definitely has a chance. However touring SA is not going to be like touring SL or Bangladesh. Sure, they got owned by Srilanka but they just recently destroyed Aussies (the sandpaper series), white washed Pakistan, beat India 2-1 etc. They are probably like WI in 1995-1998, declining but still can win from now where and have a competent bowling and batting line up. Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) RSA is scared of India, body language spells it out. 2018 ABDV got them over the line (guess who kept begging him to come back from hiatus) and our horrendous catching, that Centurion test saw the worst catching I have seen in a cricket match in any format, any level.....10 drops across the field and not just slips (Ashwin would have got 12-13 wickets otherwise) and Pappu behind stumps. If we can limit to 3-4 drops per test we should win the series irrespective of toss...we'll lose a test cos can't chase anything over 100. Edited November 19, 2020 by Gollum Vilander 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 18 hours ago, maniac said: Why are everyone assuming India will walk all over SA in their home? I think Kolpak is done and some of their main players are available and so is the quota system. They also have some big names at the helm now. Obviously India currently has the best bowling unit in history and for fans who knew what SA was in the 90’s this one is a joke but still they can be competitive. I would say a 1-1 in SA Their Batting has declined and so has bowling, Who else then Rabada ? Nortje im not sure is good in test as of now Link to comment
maniac Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Their Batting has declined and so has bowling, Who else then Rabada ? Nortje im not sure is good in test as of now Lungi might be good in home conditions and you never know what talent will pop out. They still have Dekock,Faf,Markram (rate him highly) and this other youngster not remembering his name, played vs Pak and in WC but that guy is going to be big too. Yes they are weak right now and rebuilding but they are not going to easy like a 2-0 result like everyone seems to be thinking. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Van Der Dussen thats his name Link to comment
Gollum Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 In terms of away series toughness: Aus>Eng>>NZ>>RSA NZ is easier (despite this year's result) since it is always easier to fluke a 2 test series. Hell we were leading in 2014 Eng 1-0 after 1st 2 tests, we were leading against ATG Aus in 03-04 heading to MCG. With a little more luck and mental toughness we would have whitewashed NZ in 2014. Aus toughest since they are going to be a top test side competing for ICC mace for another 3-4 years at least. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, maniac said: Lungi might be good in home conditions and you never know what talent will pop out. he is a good bowler but in last yr of so he has started bowling more cutter then seam ups 26 minutes ago, maniac said: They still have Dekock,Faf,Markram (rate him highly) and this other youngster not remembering his name, played vs Pak and in WC but that guy is going to be big too. Makram is good but 3 against our lineup and they are no geniuses like ABDV Link to comment
maniac Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: he is a good bowler but in last yr of so he has started bowling more cutter then seam ups Makram is good but 3 against our lineup and they are no geniuses like ABDV So you are telling me SA is easy pickings like SL,WI and India will easily get 2-0? India being the favorites is a sure thing obviously but SA are not going to be pushovers as they still have a competitive team. What exactly are you disagreeing on? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, maniac said: So you are telling me SA is easy pickings like SL,WI and India will easily get 2-0? India being the favorites is a sure thing obviously but SA are not going to be pushovers as they still have a competitive team. What exactly are you disagreeing on? They wont be easy coz our geniuses will find a way to mess it up but if their was a chance it cud not get easier then this in SA . IM not disagreeing im saying this SA is very weak which is why ppl are considering any sane and good team shud walk all over them....we are a good but sane word is a worry Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 23 hours ago, Adamant said: Not that easy to defeat SA in SA. They whitewashed Pakistan SA are good but whitwashing pak is not a big deal they are pathetic Link to comment
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