Pujara is simply not good enough

[sage]

Yes he cares a lot, yes he puts in all the hard work, yes he's a good person but I think that's colouring the judgement of a lot of people here. Since that great Aussie tour in '18 he has averaged around 25, his reflexes aren't what they once were, he looks stuck and struggles for timing. Lots of people were touting his praise over his dogged knocks in Australia and taking the balls on his chest and while that showed grit and determination it also showed a lack of skill. Gill was playing on the other side proper shots, other batsman were. He simply didn't have it in him to properly play the ball or avoid it. Its not sustainable. He has clearly diminished in quality playing against spin as well. 

[zen]

1 hour ago, sage said:

Lots of people were touting his praise over his dogged knocks in Australia and taking the balls on his chest and while that showed grit and determination it also showed a lack of skill.

 

Actually, it is simply risk management, cutting down on strokes that can give wkt away. His knocks are usually relatively chanceless ... When Pujara was new, he played quite a few shots but now as the best test batsman in the team, he has put a big price tag on his wkt (bowlers have to earn his wkt in general), allowing the team to play around him  ... if he is around longer in the innings, he plays wonderfully with the lower middle order and tail too (100 at Adelaide in 2018 & 132* in Eng for e.g.) ... As for the current series in Ind, we have quite a few HTB, who can put their hand up and maybe also gain inspiration from Pujara to turn their game around as well in most conditions (Pujara was relatively ordinary as well as a most conditions player early on in his career but turned it around recently): 

 

 

PS below is a nice video: 

 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by zen

[Jay]

He is a legend but his ability vs spin is not the same anymore. 

[Frustrated]

Pujara's scores post Australia tour:   50, 15, 21, 7, 0.        But But. He is irreplaceable.

[Rasgulla]

For once he didn't reply to his own thread with other IDs 

 

Well done 

[rkt.india]

He is past his best years, so we need to start looking for his replacement.

[Lone Wolf]

Indeed yes...  You can't expect big scores from him anymore. 

[SK_IH]

37 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is past his best years, so we need to start looking for his replacement.

Agreed. May be Gill at no.3 

I think for opening slot Padikkal should be groomed as well.

[rtmohanlal]

has been saying this for some time... He was one of  the chief culprits in that  1-4 series loss in ENG.  His running between the  wkts was so amateurish. Then came  that once in a blue moon performance in AUS for the first  & last time out of no where. And he has been feeding off that ever since.In  2020-21 AUS series he just did his part to perfection. That's all.  Apart from those, his performances  has been far off  . No  wonder his SENA +  WI record still remains very mediocre...  

[raki05]

3 hours ago, Frustrated said:

Pujara's scores post Australia tour:   50, 15, 21, 7, 0.        But But. He is irreplaceable.

Also look at his avg in eng, sa, NZ and wi it ll make lot o so called htb looks like Bradman. So much for all condition batter.

[Adamant]

Come on, he just played a huge role in our series victory down under. 

Need to give him some time before discarding him. 

Gill's batting against swing doesn't give much confidence 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, SK_IH said:

Agreed. May be Gill at no.3 

I think for opening slot Padikkal should be groomed as well.

As of now Gill will fail badly at no. 3

The most important role of a no. 3 is to grind down and remove the shine off the ball. 

Gill isn't all that ready for playing on pitches and conditions offering lateral movement. Gill's free flowing stroke making ability means that he won't even be able to consistently grind down the pacers. 

[raki05]

8 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Come on, he just played a huge role in our series victory down under. 

Need to give him some time before discarding him. 

Gill's batting against swing doesn't give much confidence 

And Pujara batting gives....btw isn't Gill played huge role in series victory in aus but you are already defending a veteran (who's avg in eng, NZ , sa and wi is quite mediocre after playing for so long ) and undermining a youngster who just started.

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said:

He was one of  the chief culprits in that  1-4 series loss in ENG.  His running between the  wkts was so amateurish. Then came  that once in a blue moon performance in AUS for the first  & last time out of no where. And he has been feeding off that ever since

You keep bringing this up, why not point your guns at the MFer leading the pack? His questionable selections, avg shite catching, questionable tactics & worst of all choking at key moments with the bat. How the * do you justify his numbers against NZ, Oz, Eng et al.

16 minutes ago, raki05 said:

So much for all condition batter.

We have no all conditions batter, even previously only SRT was that guy & Brat is at east a notch below. Dravid was good in that one series down under McWarne didn't play in, either side of that tour he was utter ****.

[raki05]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

We have no all conditions batter, even previously only SRT was that guy & Brat is at east a notch below. Dravid was good in that one series down under McWarne didn't play in, either side of that tour he was utter ****.

Dravid was good in eng,NZ and in aus(*)

[Real McCoy]

For all the flack that Rahane gets, Pujara hasn't shaken the world with his gritty exploits. He has been troubled by spin by Lyon in Aus of all places. He has struggled here apart from his 70 in the first test first innings on a flat road although he was unlucky in that innings to be dismissed

[Real McCoy]

10 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You keep bringing this up, why not point your guns at the MFer leading the pack? His questionable selections, avg shite catching, questionable tactics & worst of all choking at key moments with the bat. How the * do you justify his numbers against NZ, Oz, Eng et al.

We have no all conditions batter, even previously only SRT was that guy & Brat is at east a notch below. Dravid was good in that one series down under McWarne didn't play in, either side of that tour he was utter ****.

To be honest, most people failed against McWarne. They were beasts when playing together

[Adamant]

14 minutes ago, raki05 said:

And Pujara batting gives....btw isn't Gill played huge role in series victory in aus but you are already defending a veteran (who's avg in eng, NZ , sa and wi is quite mediocre after playing for so long ) and undermining a youngster who just started.

I just think that as of now Gill isn't good enough to replace Pujara, he can open but Pujara is an Indian legend it's not that easy to throw him away and expect newbies to take over. 

It won't take long for Pujara to prove his doubters wrong. 

[raki05]

3 minutes ago, Adamant said:

I just think that as of now Gill isn't good enough to replace Pujara, he can open but Pujara is an Indian legend it's not that easy to throw him away and expect newbies to take over. 

It won't take long for Pujara to prove his doubters wrong. 

ya with avg of 29,20,31,20 in eng,nz,sa and wi  respectively after playing for 10 years he definitely is irreplaceable. Had it been Rohit you guys were crying like anything. Rohit avg is not very different than him and much better in Asian condition.

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, raki05 said:

ya with avg of 29,20,31,20 in eng,nz,sa and wi  respectively after playing for 10 years he definitely is irreplaceable. Had it been Rohit you guys were crying like anything. Rohit avg is not very different than him and much better in Asian condition.

Tbh Pujara has problems in these conditions is no brainer but what is more shocking is his mediocre returns at home vs SA & BD in 2019..  Even Rahane scored against those teams.  Rahane is average against spin but he has some good inns under his belt in WTC.. Same can't be said about Pujara