Mariyam Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Kanchan is a reputed journalist, He has shared some background on the Act. But forgetting the backstory. Is it true that they have to prove reasonable innocence to get a bail in drug offenses? If this India today article is to be believed, the 'reputed journalist' is way off the mark. Probably flogging the dead horse ie the Gandhi family for his political masters. Adil Shahryar was arrested for fraud, felony, arson related offences. And not drug OD as the journalist claims. As mentioned earlier, his story about the genesis of the NDPS seems very odd. Amendments to Acts are fairly common. Edited October 16, 2021 by Mariyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 hours ago, raki05 said: He is a full grown ass man and he is convicted charshi. He should be dealt how other charasi were dealt as per constitution. Yes. The law should be followed equally. Among other narcotic items, charas was found on the group. The NDPS Act criminalizes consumption of any cannabis based drug. That said bhang/bhang pills are universally accepted in Holi. And in some places, through out the year. Would you call those consuming the concoction 'Nashedi'? They wouldn't be arrested/charged either. The application of law is ad-hoc here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Only reason he is getting hate is because he is son of SRK. nevada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Trichromatic said: How does big name matter here? It's not the type of case where small names would rot and big names will get away easily earlier. Small names won't even fall in such cases usually. So, even if law manages to make big name irrelevant in this scenario, it won't prove anything. To each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Mariyam said: Yes. The law should be followed equally. Among other narcotic items, charas was found on the group. The NDPS Act criminalizes consumption of any cannabis based drug. That said bhang/bhang pills are universally accepted in Holi. And in some places, through out the year. Would you call those consuming the concoction 'Nashedi'? They wouldn't be arrested/charged either. The application of law is ad-hoc here. If as per law that is identified as illegal consumption I would wish them jail. Regarding nashedi if thats their habit for years every day like srk son I would still call them Nashedi. Would not call if they are only having it in holi as part of tradition, just like we are not called sharabi when we drink once in a while in office party. coffee_rules and Mariyam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, raki05 said: If as per law that is identified as illegal consumption I would wish them jail. Regarding nashedi if thats their habit for years every day like srk son I would still call them Nashedi. Would not call if they are only having it in holi as part of tradition, just like we are not called sharabi when we drink once in a while in office party. That's fair. coffee_rules and raki05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 22 hours ago, Mariyam said: Is that assertion/story in the tweet you posted correct? What would the USA gain by India having a more stringent anti-drug law? We always had an Opium/Drug Act. The NDPS was an amendment to the existing Act and due to advances in chemical technologies in making these drugs, the Act was renamed so that its name covers a wider ambit of substances and not just opioids and its derivatives. While the Adil Shahryar drug story is fabrication, he was arrested in 1981 (Son of Mohd Yunus , some remember him connected with IG and Sanjay Gandhi) for 35 years for felony/arson charges. The day Rajiv Gandhi landed in USA visit. Reagan gave him a presidential pardon, although it has nothing to do with USA drug policy. But the 1985 NDPS act was brought under USA/UN pressure for a different reason https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/The-joint-campaign-Should-we-not-legalize-recreational-use-of-Cannabis/articleshow/17165613.cms Quote Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Only reason he is getting hate is because he is son of SRK. It may or may not be the case. But the converse is also true. The only reason he is getting all the sympathies and support is because he is the son of SRK. Fan poyzz/and girlz see him as a poor little rich kid, stuck with baddies at the wrong place at the wrong time. Edited October 16, 2021 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I am not 23 year old anymore. But I can see how all this stuff can be so traumatizing with all the media hoopla. Then again it’s free publicity for his launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingravi Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Bail rejected. Prima facie, boy could be in more trouble than we thought. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Bail rejected. Prima facie, boy could be in more trouble than we thought. Will have to approach the Bombay HC now. It is still judicial custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 NCB claims nothing in his possession, but objecting the bail only on the basis of WhatsApp chats. Same was the reason (WhatsApp chars( to hold Arknob as well by the MVA government. Finally, SC had to intervene in case of him. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 5:07 PM, coffee_rules said: It may or may not be the case. But the converse is also true. The only reason he is getting all the sympathies and support is because he is the son of SRK. Fan poyzz/and girlz see him as a poor little rich kid, stuck with baddies at the wrong place at the wrong time. It is sad, but the only reason he is getting all the sympathies and support is while it has become a fight of Right and the Left wing, and the state institutions have been manupalized, and they are loosing their trust. Even if they are right, but still the other faction is not going to trust them. It is the unfortunate final result of the polarization of the society. urbestfriend and Mariyam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Alam_dar said: It is sad, but the only reason he is getting all the sympathies and support is while it has become a fight of Right and the Left wing, and the state institutions have been manupalized, and they are loosing their trust. Even if they are right, but still the other faction is not going to trust them. It is the unfortunate final result of the polarization of the society. You are spot on here. The right and left wing has inserted itself into this case and has assumed positions based on their ideological biases. The RW posts on Social Media (and in this thread) show the kind of mindset that we are dealing with. Glee at the travails of court kachehri of the son of a helpless father who made it big being a nobody in an industry that favours dynasts. To further fan the RW, the Rana Ayub's throw a religious victim-hood angle which doesn't exist in this case. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Aryan Khan’s lawyer Satish Maneshinde said in court: "Deviating from the norms, which is generally seen when rave parties are busted, the Narcotic Control Bureau (NCB) did not take blood and urine samples of the accused." The NCB officials refused to take blood and urine samples, even when Aryan had offered his tests done. The insinuation is that the NCB would have to discharge Aryan from the case immediately if his reports showed negative. Hence the refusal. Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) I think he (Aryan) should be granted bail. He is just 21 year old kid and imprisoning him for elongated period can have serious mental repurcussions. Somewhere we need to show empathy and do what is right. If he is proven guilty later, sure punish him as per law but no point in keeping him in jail when the trial is on. He has not murdered anyone....drug is very bad but not a non bailable offence. Edited October 20, 2021 by Austin 3:!6 Alam_dar and beetle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Mariyam said: Aryan Khan’s lawyer Satish Maneshinde said in court: "Deviating from the norms, which is generally seen when rave parties are busted, the Narcotic Control Bureau (NCB) did not take blood and urine samples of the accused." The NCB officials refused to take blood and urine samples, even when Aryan had offered his tests done. The insinuation is that the NCB would have to discharge Aryan from the case immediately if his reports showed negative. Hence the refusal. 32 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I think he (Aryan) should be granted bail. He is just 21 year old kid and imprisoning him for elongated period can have serious mental repurcussions. Somewhere we need to show empathy and do what is right. If he is proven guilty later, sure punish him as per law but no point in keeping him in jail when the trial is on. He has not murdered anyone....drug is very bad but not a non bailable offence. The mistake you guys @Mariyam @Austin 3:!6 make is - you are dismissive of / underestimate the kind of evidence that may be stacked against Aryan in court by Sameer Wankhede and team based on the communication that has happened over whatsapp. Not consuming it does not absolve him of crime. The electronic evidence presented shows him in touch with an entire network of dealers. Secondly, the risks of granting him a quick bail may be that evidence may be manipulated as soon as he is out. It is very painful to be if you are in the SRK household purely for the parents. But have no sympathy for Bollywood. raki05, Under_Score and ravishingravi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) I don’t like SRK but I sympathize with him. Always felt criminal’s families should be left out of media but this has become unavoidable due to his name. Having said that there only seem to be 2 narratives Aryan Khan is Indian Pablo Escobar and the other is Aryan Khan is a doodh Peeta baccha who mistook cocaine for talcum powder. If he just smoked a joint and if it is a crime, catch him for that, arrest him and then maybe make him pay the equivalent bail for it. How is there enough material to prolong this? Truth is definitely somewhere in the middle. Any neutral perspectives? Edited October 21, 2021 by maniac Austin 3:!6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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