What changes will likely be made to the team after we lose the 2nd Test at Joburg except, Kohli replacing Vihari ?

[ash]

Kohli should not be dropped. He just had one bad year, you cannot drop someone for having a bad phase, even the great SRT had that. We need to back him. Pujara and Rahane have to go for sure. 

[raki05]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-hanuma-vihari-shreyas-iyer-have-to-wait-for-regular-chances-rahul-dravid-clarifies-at-giving-cheteshwar-pujara-ajinkya-rahane-longest-rope-explains-why-101641625625332.html

 

Indian Coach for u.

[putrevus]

Dravid is 100 % right, once you change from senior players you are done with him.Youngster have to wait for their turn.Glad coaches are not thinking like some geniuses here.

[putrevus]

Noone is saying peep about Rahul as he did something in last two series.Before Rahul was a flop show for over two years.

[ash]

 

10 hours ago, raki05 said:

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-hanuma-vihari-shreyas-iyer-have-to-wait-for-regular-chances-rahul-dravid-clarifies-at-giving-cheteshwar-pujara-ajinkya-rahane-longest-rope-explains-why-101641625625332.html

 

Indian Coach for u.

not sure why the same logic was not applied for Murali Vijay, arguably our best opener in the last decade.

[R!TTER]

10 hours ago, ash said:

you cannot drop someone for having a bad phase,

What bad phase? He's done for, over, finished capiche 

 

He'll never get close to his peak years, let alone SRT, his fanboys/girls should top this delusion 

[AKane]

Somebody needs to take on Rabada - hit him out of his strutting  like Rahane did to Mitchell Johnson long long ago. That Rahane is long gone - but can the new heroes like the peerless KL or the magnificent Mayank or the Hanuma do it? Pant or his replacement if any?

[Jay]

Problem is our bowling is not as fit as before at the moment due to bubble fatigue. We have been travelling non stop. Arm chair quarterbacks need to factor that in. We play more tests abroad and at home compared. To other top sides. 

 

We need to see a fully fit and firing bumrah shami umesh, shardul and siraj. 

[First class]

10 hours ago, putrevus said:

Dravid is 100 % right, once you change from senior players you are done with him.Youngster have to wait for their turn.Glad coaches are not thinking like some geniuses here.

Only Indian coaches unable to take bold decision , SENA coaches care about seniority only up to a certain limit, not like this. 

[Jay]

24 minutes ago, First class said:

Only Indian coaches unable to take bold decision , SENA coaches care about seniority only up to a certain limit, not like this. 

Because our lot are backwards and adopt outdated principles. Rigid in terms of change. 

[Jay]

This is not a government job rofl where experience actually helps in a way. This is sports. Can't apply the same analogy here. Sports need immediate impact from fresh, motivated and in form players. If the old facts cant produce results they need to be dropped. Go work in a corporate or government job if you want to cling on to your title. 

 

This paindu dravid needs to be dropped asap. he is worse than shastri. 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Jay

[Lord]

16 hours ago, putrevus said:

Dravid is 100 % right, once you change from senior players you are done with him.Youngster have to wait for their turn.Glad coaches are not thinking like some geniuses here.

 

What's wrong with that?Team matters not player.

 

How much do they have to wait before non performing seniors are booted out?

[Lord]

16 hours ago, putrevus said:

Noone is saying peep about Rahul as he did something in last two series.Before Rahul was a flop show for over two years.

 

and he was dropped

[raki05]

We are going to loose sa series and onus is on trimurti and another orthodox coach. This was the easiest chance to defeat sa, but we will happy be happy with 2-1 defeat mediocrity.

[putrevus]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

and he was dropped

So? how many tests did he fail before he was dropped.Kohli has done 1000 times more than Rahul.So it is just fne to keep playing Kohli.

[putrevus]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

What's wrong with that?Team matters not player.

 

How much do they have to wait before non performing seniors are booted out?

What will they do if the new comers don't perform,guy like Shaw looked over matched.Will youkeep looking for new players over and over again. Gill and Shaw's failures/injuries have given Rahul new lease.

 

You phase out one player at a time,I would have phased out Rahane and not taken him to SA.Rahane to me was always useless, all he ever did was play one knock per series  and kept his place.

Edited January 9, 2022 by putrevus

[Lord]

13 minutes ago, putrevus said:

What will they do if the new comers don't perform,guy like Shaw looked over matched.Will youkeep looking for new players over and over again. Gill and Shaw's failures/injuries have given Rahul new lease.

 

You phase out one player at a time,I would have phased out Rahane and not taken him to SA.Rahane to me was always useless, all he ever did was play one knock per series  and kept his place.

 

Shaw failed in one pink ball Test where everyone else failed in 2nd dig too. Why was he dropped after one Test whereas these guys have been sucking for two years?

 

Gill did well in Gabba and still has better numbers than trinity since 2021

 

If anything talented youngsters deserve bigger rope as they are touring for first time and still learning. Seniors have no excuse being this inconsistent after all the experience.

 

Laxman and Dravid retired after same series. We were fine

[Lord]

27 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So? how many tests did he fail before he was dropped.Kohli has done 1000 times more than Rahul.So it is just fne to keep playing Kohli.

 

no because Rahul was young and went back to domestics .Kohli is 33 and wont play domestics.

 

I agree Kohli should keep playing for now. Its because of other two that his failures get magnified as it hurts our chances.

[SRT100]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Shaw failed in one pink ball Test where everyone else failed in 2nd dig too. Why was he dropped after one Test whereas these guys have been sucking for two years?

 

Gill did well in Gabba and still has better numbers than trinity since 2021

 

If anything talented youngsters deserve bigger rope as they are touring for first time and still learning. Seniors have no excuse being this inconsistent after all the experience.

 

Laxman and Dravid retired after same series. We were fine

 

What I have noticed about Indian cricket from afar is that it appears that the BCCI/TM like to reward senior players with home series opportunities to improve their records, instead of affording it to the kids and using that as a platform to play them in SENA.

 

Kids need to be played when the team is winning so they get used to a winning culture.

[putrevus]

On 1/9/2022 at 8:16 AM, Lord said:

 

Shaw failed in one pink ball Test where everyone else failed in 2nd dig too. Why was he dropped after one Test whereas these guys have been sucking for two years?

 

Gill did well in Gabba and still has better numbers than trinity since 2021

 

If anything talented youngsters deserve bigger rope as they are touring for first time and still learning. Seniors have no excuse being this inconsistent after all the experience.

 

Laxman and Dravid retired after same series. We were fine

All trinity averaged more than Gill after 10 tests and scored multiple 100s. So what it shows is all of them were more talented than Gill?

 

Laxman and Dravid played over 130 and 160 tests when they retired.

 

Nobody is saying talented youngsters should not get chances,But I would not drop guy like Pujara for Gill yet. Rahane is different story.He should have be gone by now.

 

Gill, Shaw are openers, they are not competing with Pujara and Rahane for spots. Iyer is and I would have played Iyer in place of Rahane.