Harshal Patel: how the hell does he manage to pick up wickets every time?

[maniac]

Doesn’t swing the ball

 

doesn’t have pace

 

Yes he has slower balls, knuckle balls etc but so do 100’s of other trundlers available around Indian domestic circuit.

 

He doesn’t have any mystery balls that are unreadable.

 

every match I think he is going to get smashed and he does here and there go for that 20 + over but always ends up with wickets.

 

Is there something I am missing with my assessment of him?

 

Seems to have that insane ability of picking wickets every time.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

The fear is that one big over. Game changing over where he can go for plenty like he did against Jaddu. If a batsman is good enough to pick slower ones, he will be dismantled. He relies on misjudgement from the batsmen.

[sandeep]

Change of pace, especially well disguised, is exceptionally effective against batsmen intent on swinging hard. 

[maniac]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

The fear is that one big over. Game changing over where he can go for plenty like he did against Jaddu. If a batsman is good enough to pick slower ones, he will be dismantled. He relies on misjudgement from the batsmen.

Yes he has those days. However remember guys like Vinay, Dinda etc used to get smashed and neither did they pick up a lot of wickets, he has an insane ability to pick up crucial wickets even when having a bad day going for those big overs.

[Lone Wolf]

Bowlers like him can win u truckload of bilaterals but in a pressure game..  Those slower ones will not come off well & he will travel

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bowlers like him can win u truckload of bilaterals but in a pressure game..  Those slower ones will not come off well & he will travel

Good point 

[raki05]

He is least of the worries and still better than trundler god Bhuvi.

[Chakdephatte]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bowlers like him can win u truckload of bilaterals but in a pressure game..  Those slower ones will not come off well & he will travel

How? Why cannot a trundler deliver under pressure? He did good in eliminator last year.

[Chakdephatte]

One thing is clear. Neither him nor Shardul are just lucky to keep getting wickets. That being said, luck is the answer to your question. He will run out of luck someday and even his good balls will be hit. Just that part of your career when everything you touch turns gold.

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

One thing is clear. Neither him nor Shardul are just lucky to keep getting wickets. That being said, luck is the answer to your question. He will run out of luck someday and even his good balls will be hit. Just that part of your career when everything you touch turns gold.

Luck can happen in 1 out of 3 games but this guy has been going on and on for nearly 2 years with great returns. He was lucky and fluking was my theory too but I think this a long enough run for us to look for something else in his bowling. No?

[Lone Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

How? Why cannot a trundler deliver under pressure? He did good in eliminator last year.

He is not a typical trundler...  He has no swing seam or even conventional short pitch bowling skill.  D Chahar Bhuvi have that in their armory...  He is a strict off cutter leg cutter type trundler... Srinath Aravind type.  These guys travel when ball doesn't grips on the surface. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

he has an outstanding loopy slower ball, very similar to bravo. He varies his lengths also well 

He aint a trundler as ppl say he varies his pace well. T20 is about variation in pace n length not just pace pace

[Ankit_sharma03]

he has an outstanding loopy slower ball, very similar to bravo. He varies his lengths also well 

He aint a trundler as ppl say he varies his pace well. T20 is about variation in pace n length not just pace pace

[nitinbwj]

Smart bowler like Bravo plus he can bat. 

[maniac]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he has an outstanding loopy slower ball, very similar to bravo. He varies his lengths also well 

He aint a trundler as ppl say he varies his pace well. T20 is about variation in pace n length not just pace pace

Bravo was a well rounded bowler when he started. Could swing the ball , had an effective bouncer/ yorker.

 

Harshal apart from slower ball has no other visible skill. That’s the mystery.

[Serpico]

27 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bowlers like him can win u truckload of bilaterals but in a pressure game..  Those slower ones will not come off well & he will travel

Blatant joginder sharma erasure

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, maniac said:

Bravo was a well rounded bowler when he started. Could swing the ball , had an effective bouncer/ yorker.

 

Harshal apart from slower ball has no other visible skill. That’s the mystery.

length n pace  variation is a big thing , currently their anyways isnt enough movement with white ball 

As bravo lost his pace through years his slower ball always was to his rescue. Harshal yorker is good but lacks consistency landing it which will get better 

 

In t20 batsman is looking to hit u n ur looking to decieve him now either u can do it with movement or variation in pace n length. Main point is deception doesnt matter how u do it 

[prudent_kreeda]

18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

length n pace  variation is a big thing , currently their anyways isnt enough movement with white ball 

As bravo lost his pace through years his slower ball always was to his rescue. Harshal yorker is good but lacks consistency landing it which will get better 

 

In t20 batsman is looking to hit u n ur looking to decieve him now either u can do it with movement or variation in pace n length. Main point is deception doesnt matter how u do it 

 Too many people spewing venom just looking at the pace . Let some of new 140+ bowlers bowl to this WI hitters . With just pace & not much deception & control , they won't find the place to hide.  But playing 3 bowlers was  a trundler too much. 

There is place for Harshal atleast till next T20WC if not over exposed . 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 Too many people spewing venom just looking at the pace . Let some of new 140+ bowlers bowl to this WI hitters . With just pace & not much deception & control , they won't find the place to hide.  But playing 3 bowlers was  a trundler too much. 

There is place for Harshal atleast till next T20WC if not over exposed . 

exactly just blank pace will take to nowhere in white ball 

Skill with ball shud matter not just pace, pace is just one of the skill not all the skill 

 

Yes playing similar bowler or batsman is wrong 

[Norman]

On another note... We should ask ourselves why we are producing so many bowlers that make us say this.