Anti-Selector Squad - Put your selectors hat and pick World Cup squad for India if you are very unhappy with selected Squad

[sandeep]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

U dropped 

harshal , bhuvi, arshdeep - 3 is not enough 

Also name replacement 

 

Rule is 5 

5 is too many - even if somebody manages 4, and makes a somewhat reasonable case, then i'd say that's impressive.

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Disqualified 

Ashwin - pant are already in squad

 

Hooda

Harshal

Chahal

Shami

Iyer

 

That's 5 including reserves. I qualify

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, sandeep said:

If that were the case why didn't Avesh improve?  

 

These are all judgement calls and incredibly subjective - and based on the amount of information available to the public fan, vs the team management, even 2 coaches in the inner circle might have differing opinions with access to all the info.  

 

My point is that on the question of players like Umran and Mohsin - the clamor on ICF for them is disproportionate to the evidence we have.  

 

Avesh has a lot of issues. He is unfit and wasn't the right choice from the beginning. Avesh is not a supreme talent and on top of that, he doesn't work on his fitness.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Fitness unknown- one thing for sure i know he was in NCA in August and had hamstring injury before 

 

Same question - Will u take him to WC without any match practice ?

 

Yes ... not having match practise is not players fault (many of them could have been denied enough practise to accommodate others) as if I were selector, they would have had match practise

[maniac]

7 minutes ago, sandeep said:

which 3 bowlers replace them though?  

Deepak C, Umran and one of Umesh/Moshin

[Ankit_sharma03]

Regd Mohsin khan fitness

 

 

 

This is the same sports  journalist who broke Bumrah injury news before anyone through his sources in NCA and he turned to be right

so his word is more relevant then ur assumption , also If you check Mohsin Instagram - he was in NCA in August 

 

 

2 day back article  from Sportskeeda- https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-2022-3-players-might-picked-india-s-squad-south-africa-odi-series-injured

 

Mohsin Khan is reportedly nursing a hamstring injury, having not featured at any level of cricket since the conclusion of the 2022 Indian Premier League. There has been no indication of him being close to a national call-up, but there's no doubt that the Men in Blue need to keep him in the thick of things.

 

 

So anyone who has Mohsin fitness certificate please update 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, sandeep said:

5 is too many - even if somebody manages 4, and makes a somewhat reasonable case, then i'd say that's impressive.

chalo 4 kiya 

[maniac]

9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

U dropped 

harshal , bhuvi, arshdeep - 3 is not enough 

Also name replacement 

 

Rule is 5 

i don’t have 5 people to drop logically but since it’s a hypothetical  game the other 2 would be Chahal with Bishnoi and Ashwin with an other fast bowler. Don’t  need an off spinner just for the heck of it 

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

wo to koi bhi cricketer pakka pakaya nhin aata, har koi evolve karta hai but waha tak pahuchne ke liye kuch karna padta hai 

aur agar fast track hi logic hai to danke ki chot pe lo naam aur agar tumhe hi confidence nahin player pe to selectors ko kyun gaali deni 

And because players evolve and don't become international class overnight, it is difficult for anyone to put selectors hat and select alternative players overnight. 

[vayuu1]

 I'd still back bishnoi, I'd still back umran, I'd still back Jaiswal and shaw I'd still back Mohsin, reason, bishnoi,umran, Mohsin, Jaiswal, shaw have shown albeit in IPL the x factor that is missing from current squad plus of bhuvi and chahar I'd go with chahar,he is someone who actually bowls to his strength that is looking to pitch it up and swing the ball,with Mohsin its more about bowling accurately with pace umran looks to ball quick off late he is looking to pitch it up and attack stumps shaw for all his flaws is someone who looks to attack from ball one , I'd go with Jaiswal as he is left hander plus he looks to take on bowler

[sandeep]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

Avesh has a lot of issues. He is unfit and wasn't the right choice from the beginning. Avesh is not a supreme talent and on top of that, he doesn't work on his fitness.

who or what is this "supreme talent" that has been unjustly treated?

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

And because players evolve and don't become international class overnight, it is difficult for anyone to put selectors hat and select alternative players overnight. 

but its easy for everyone to say in hindsight which everyone will do 

hindsight to sab khade ho jayenge ki some XYZ wud have done better jabki he wasnt good enough to get selected in 1st place 

[express bowling]

26 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

They aren't idiots and are privy to lot more information than us.

 

 

 

The TM aren't idiots at all and they know much more about international cricket than we do. That is a fact.

 

They have excellent judgement when it comes to batting. 

 

But 2 factors arise

 

1)   Most of our ex-cricketers and some cricketers have strange notions when it comes to bowling. 

 

Otherwise, can you tell me why India has never had a test match bowler averaging 25 or less with 100+ wickets, before Bumrah, Ashwin snd Jadeja ?  Why did it take 80+ years ? 

 

It's because we always adopted and even now sometimes adopt a safety first snd low on aggression policy when it comes to bowling.

 

Not an issue of lack of intelligence but an issue of basic nature or tendency.

 

2)  The 2nd issue is lack of ruthlessness of some individuals. They find it hard to remove a well known big name even if they know in their minds that he is not performing as per his liking.

 

Younger Dhoni was ruthless as Captain and removed all the deadwood without any hesitancy. Which is why he won 2 World Cups and a Champions Trophy. Old Dhoni lost this and nothing more came.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by express bowling

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Regd Mohsin khan fitness

 

 

 

This is the same sports  journalist who broke Bumrah injury news before anyone through his sources in NCA and he turned to be right

so his word is more relevant then ur assumption , also If you check Mohsin Instagram - he was in NCA in August 

 

 

2 day back article  from Sportskeeda- https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/ind-vs-sa-2022-3-players-might-picked-india-s-squad-south-africa-odi-series-injured

 

Mohsin Khan is reportedly nursing a hamstring injury, having not featured at any level of cricket since the conclusion of the 2022 Indian Premier League. There has been no indication of him being close to a national call-up, but there's no doubt that the Men in Blue need to keep him in the thick of things.

 

 

So anyone who has Mohsin fitness certificate please update 

 

'I have same doubt about Khaleel too. Not played since IPL

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

'I have same doubt about Khaleel too. Not played since IPL

no info avl on him 

[sandeep]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

The TM aren't idiots at all and they know much more about international cricket than we do. That is a fact.

 

They have excellent judgement when it comes to batting. 

 

But 2 factors arise

 

1)   Most of our ex-cricketers and some cricketers have strange notions when it comes to bowling. 

 

Otherwise, can you tell me why India had never had a test match bowler averaging 25 or less with 100+ wickets, before Buumrah, Ashwin snd Jadeja ?  Why did it take 80+ years ? 

 

It's because we always adopted and even now sometimes adopt a safety first snd low on aggression policy when it comes to bowling.

 

Not an issue of lack of intelligence but an issue of basic nature or tendency.

 

2)  The 2nd issue is lack of ruthlessness of some individuals. They find it hard to remove a well known big name even if they know in their minds that he is not performing as per his liking.

 

Younger Dhoni was ruthless as Captain and removed all the deadwood without any hesitancy. Which is why he won 2 World Cups and a Champions Trophy. Old Dhoni lost this and nothing more came.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some valid points about cricket culture, and overly cautious mindsets particularly on bowling front.  Also a function of the nature of wickets in the subcontinent, but more so of a batting dominant cricket culture historically.  

 

 

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

The TM aren't idiots at all and they know much more about international cricket than we do. That is a fact.

 

They have excellent judgement when it comes to batting. 

 

But 2 factors arise

 

1)   Most of our ex-cricketers and some cricketers have strange notions when it comes to bowling. 

 

Otherwise, can you tell me why India had never had a test match bowler averaging 25 or less with 100+ wickets, before Buumrah, Ashwin snd Jadeja ?  Why did it take 80+ years ? 

 

It's because we always adopted and even now sometimes adopt a safety first snd low on aggression policy when it comes to bowling.

 

Not an issue of lack of intelligence but an issue of basic nature or tendency.

 

2)  The 2nd issue is lack of ruthlessness of some individuals. They find it hard to remove a well known big name even if they know in their minds that he is not performing as per his liking.

 

Younger Dhoni was ruthless as Captain and removed all the deadwood without any hesitancy. Which is why he won 2 World Cups and a Champions Trophy. Old Dhoni lost this and nothing more came.

 

 

 

 

 

Those are cultural issues. Even SL only have Murali as sub 25 averaging bowler (Min 50 wickets).

 

Basically it reflects the way we go about things in other areas too.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

Since the rules are not mentioned for Stand-by's

Rohit
Pant 
Kohli
SKY
Pandya
DK
Axar
D Chahar (replaces Bhuvi, PP wise they are similar, death wise they are equally crap, DC is 20x times Bhuvi the batter)
Bishnoi (replaces Chahal, better fielder and better bat, bowling wise inexperienced but is mentally stronger)
Siraj (replaces Harshal, can move the new ball and has improved in death, can leak runs but so does Harshal)
Arshdeep 

Advantages -> Batting till 8, Bishnoi at no 9 is no mug with the bat, 6 bowling options, 2 lefties in the middle. 

Bench :
Umran Malik/Kuldeep Sen/Shami (either one proper express fast bowler, or one tall bouncy pacer who can bowl fast, or Shami if they want to go for experience)
Sanju Samson (replaces Shreyas, leg spin is his kryptonite, but can play pace and bouncer very well)
Shardul Thakur (backup to Pandya and Chahar, if god forbid anyone goes down)
KL Rahul 

@Ankit_sharma03 FYI -> This is considering Tyagi, Mohsin, Prasidh are injured.
 

Edited October 6, 2022 by singhvivek141

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, vayuu1 said:

 I'd still back bishnoi, I'd still back umran, I'd still back Jaiswal and shaw I'd still back Mohsin, reason, bishnoi,umran, Mohsin, Jaiswal, shaw have shown albeit in IPL the x factor that is missing from current squad plus of bhuvi and chahar I'd go with chahar,he is someone who actually bowls to his strength that is looking to pitch it up and swing the ball,with Mohsin its more about bowling accurately with pace umran looks to ball quick off late he is looking to pitch it up and attack stumps shaw for all his flaws is someone who looks to attack from ball one , I'd go with Jaiswal as he is left hander plus he looks to take on bowler

1. bishnoi
2. umran
3. shaw
4. mohsin- unfit so i wont take it 
5. jaiswal

 

ok and ull replace which players 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Majority of posters are cribbing Lokmanya Tilaks - moaning is my birthright and I shall have it!

 

Crying Sore-raj 

Screaming Sour-raj