Semi Final - India Vs England - Pre Match Discussion Thread

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Ashwin is batting better than Axar. Axar is better v spin, but at no. 7 you rarely face spin. And he's not good enough to bat higher.

 

Harshal can work vs both RHB and LHB. Most important there is nothing in tracks for Axar so even righties can line him up and hit through line.

 

Would use Harshal in middle, he can extract something out of the pitch.

how on earth is ashwin better t20 batter then axar ?

 

Axar is better vs spin and we have been using him against spin only, DK-hardik are being use against pace . 

[cowboysfan]

25 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

It means he plays high risk cricket. He may be gone in first few balls. He has been amazingly consistent but we will all have to accept that some days those scoops will go to hand and spin may get him initially. 

I will take 11 suryas in the team.a lot of our players still play T20 like ODIs and that is not the the approach you want in the champion side.

Edited November 6, 2022 by cowboysfan

[Nash]

It is selector and Coach problem.  India is running on very thin Banch strength.  I wish we had some better bowlers and batsman.  The DK hardik axar ashwin are not inspiring any confident.  KL and rohit are walking wicket against fast bowlers.  Kohli and surya can’t rescue us every time.  Indian pace is okaying.  Spinners are not I form.  What a mess india is in.  
 

Rahul dravid is responsible for the shitty selection.  Can’t believe we are with no speedstart. What a joke harshal is as option.   

[SM2907]

35 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

 

wtf? what the heck does this even mean?

This means you cannot depend on his style of cricket, which is high risk. Dependable batsmen in the team ar Rahul, Rohit, Kohli and Hardik 

[cowboysfan]

9 minutes ago, Nash said:

It is selector and Coach problem.  India is running on very thin Banch strength.  I wish we had some better bowlers and batsman.  The DK hardik axar ashwin are not inspiring any confident.  KL and rohit are walking wicket against fast bowlers.  Kohli and surya can’t rescue us every time.  Indian pace is okaying.  Spinners are not I form.  What a mess india is in.  
 

Rahul dravid is responsible for the shitty selection.  Can’t believe we are with no speedstart. What a joke harshal is as option.   

 

i agree.if you look at the 4 teams left i would argue that ours is the weakest by far.we have 3-4 playing at a high level but the rest of them are just passengers.I think Pakistan will be the favorites to win this WC now.

[Vilander]

11 minutes ago, Nash said:

It is selector and Coach problem.  India is running on very thin Banch strength.  I wish we had some better bowlers and batsman.  The DK hardik axar ashwin are not inspiring any confident.  KL and rohit are walking wicket against fast bowlers.  Kohli and surya can’t rescue us every time.  Indian pace is okaying.  Spinners are not I form.  What a mess india is in.  
 

Rahul dravid is responsible for the shitty selection.  Can’t believe we are with no speedstart. What a joke harshal is as option.   

 

this is true. 
 

pant and ashwin are important against eng 

[cowboysfan]

1 minute ago, SM2907 said:

This means you cannot depend on his style of cricket, which is high risk. Dependable batsmen in the team ar Rahul, Rohit, Kohli and Hardik 

well you are wrong.no indian has scored as many runs as Surya in a calender year in T20.if that is not consistent than i dont know what is.

[Number]

No change. I believe Axar will have a role to play. If England get a brisk start and no swing on offer, Axar will bowl against Butler Hales in PP. Moreover Adelaide is really really dry, can't go with lone spinner.

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how on earth is ashwin better t20 batter then axar ?

 

Axar is better vs spin and we have been using him against spin only, DK-hardik are being use against pace . 

I said he's batting better in these conditions. What has Axar done with bat in Aus ever? Conditions matter.

 

We can't promote Axar here. So won't get much spin . 

[zen]

Any changes are unlikely unless due to niggle or a last minute tactical change so not much point in pondering over it

[deepdynamo]

Its going to be batting shootout.

 

Better having both DK and Pant but tell each and every batsman to be positive from ball one.

 

Worried about Rahul wasting couple of overs upfront ( like every match ) and then getting out.

[First class]

Replace Axar with anyone , rest is OK. 

[SM2907]

Pant vs DK who is playing ?

[Ankit_sharma03]

I think england can bring in willey for woakes 

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, Nash said:

We don’t have any choice for DK pant Hardik.  These are not in form and our lower middle order is not clicking.  
Rohit is big concern.  The only thing our team depends on from top four 2 survive and play until 18 over.  I think that it is doable because the pitch is okay bounce for semi. 

Is it a diff pitch from the ned sa or pak Bangla game...that pitch was slow..I think it would suit India more..also smaller square boundaries might help rohits pull to sail to the boundary..

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

DK and Pant both in , drop Axar and ask Pandu to bowl 5 overs without nautanki. No other option. Need batting and pace option . KL is bound to fail and Sky can’t strike in all matches with fail trying to up the ante. MO will be doomed if there is one less batsman 

Is the pitch slow and uneven like the ned sa or pak Bangla game..then axar or harshal will be handful there though..but otherwise if axar isn't bowling..go with 7 batsman and pandya bowls 4

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

improve length and take catches , liton das edged one of bhuvi ball which was cud have gone on our side with a bit of luck. Litton made all the difference that day 

About changes i have seen matchups till now

 

If sky is due for a failure so is mark wood 

 

yes against better batting side in batting conditions bowling cushion is needed , batting cushion isnt since their bowling isnt that great............if we collapse to fir batsman ki galti hai 

 

I think their bowlinf has improved..Curran has the wide yorkers and topleybwoakes with new ball swing..and Rashid..not bad or as bad as we faced them in england

[bowl_out]

4 hours ago, Khota said:

Against England Ashwin is a must.

Yes. His bowling will save us 10 runs with English players not stealing yards

[vivek04]

Play with 4 bowlers bhuvi, arsh, ashwin and shami. Pandya will be the 5th bowler. Add dk in the side and drop axar as he is useless till now. 7 proper batters would strengthen the batting. We have to match eng's batting.

[straighttalk]

2 hours ago, Nash said:

It is selector and Coach problem.  India is running on very thin Banch strength.  I wish we had some better bowlers and batsman.  The DK hardik axar ashwin are not inspiring any confident.  KL and rohit are walking wicket against fast bowlers.  Kohli and surya can’t rescue us every time.  Indian pace is okaying.  Spinners are not I form.  What a mess india is in.  
 

Rahul dravid is responsible for the shitty selection.  Can’t believe we are with no speedstart. What a joke harshal is as option.   

While I agree with your assessment on mediocre options...Rahul dravid or Rohit isn't thinking so..otherwise they would niggle out and bring Thakur and Siraj in...so right or wrong they are sticking with the tried and tested failures...atleast we have Kohli and now minnow basher repaying some of the faith..prob with the dk axar harshal is that their best isn't good either