Vijy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: That's the thing isnt it? If you bring back those whom you were supposedly phasing out then you weren't plannin on doing that anyway. Even with injuries they could have given a few others chances if they were serious about it instead of going back to them because of div 2 county runs and a few pretty looking boundaries in the IPL. they will not phase them out. each will play till 41-42 like misbah SRT100 and Rohitfan 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Vijy said: they will not phase them out. each will play till 41-42 like misbah Kohli definitely. Rahane and Pujara will not be able to survive that long because they are not marketing investments like Kohli. Frustrated, tapandrun and Vijy 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 “We a have few guys coming back from injuries in any case. We have to give them opportunities to play (in Asia Cup). We have a one week camp in Bengaluru from August 23 for the Asia Cup. We will take it as it comes,” he added. He has left the India's fortunes to destiny. spiritb2, raki05, Sgattick10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Should just drown them in the Mariana trench Link to comment
AKane Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 You gotta have something to lower it. Most people have no expectations anymore so the lowering of expectations is moot. express bowling, raki05 and Gollum 1 2 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Dravid has similar approach as that of Saqlain Mustaq. Qudraat ka Nizam hai. Pehle subah hota hai. Phir Shaam. Phir Raat. Bla Bla. Sgattick10 and raki05 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 13 hours ago, AKane said: You gotta have something to lower it. Most people have no expectations anymore so the lowering of expectations is moot. you can always lower it below zero Link to comment
Number Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Twitter link Sabse Pahle aapko ghabrana nahi hai. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 21 hours ago, AKane said: You gotta have something to lower it. Most people have no expectations anymore so the lowering of expectations is moot. We haven't reached earth's core yet, there's still a few thousand kms to go Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Rotten culture from the grassroots up. Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 13 hours ago, R!TTER said: We haven't reached earth's core yet, there's still a few thousand kms to go and then we can continue to tunnel through until we reach the other side Link to comment
Frustrated Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Indian Fan to Dravid: "Lower your pay package" Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Charles Dickens wrote The Great Expectatations. Apna = Jammy "Dick"ends writes Lower your Expectations! express bowling and zen 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Expectations is not the problem .Dravid the coach cannot create talent, what he can do is create a system where players maximize their abilities. That is where Dravid has failed miserably.He has failed to give his players any sense of direction.Nor he has laid any foundation where his teams are expected play in certain way. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, putrevus said: Expectations is not the problem .Dravid the coach cannot create talent, what he can do is create a system where players maximize their abilities. That is where Dravid has failed miserably.He has failed to give his players any sense of direction.Nor he has laid any foundation where his teams are expected play in certain way. You have to set your expectation high. Your goal should be high. You should leave a legacy when you retire. Be it is building a great unit that will server us for the next decade or so. Be it is instilling ruthless work ethics and culture among players that have a cascading effect. The impact has to be telling. He has now admitted they take as things come rather than take any proactive action. There is clear lack of future plan. Identify problems and address it instead of merely echo facts that we already knew long back. If he feels he is unable to enforce discipline and standards he should quit. The fielding by Indians is frankly high school level. Bangladesh women cricketers fielded better than our current team in West Indies. It is just that other areas are even worse. My concern is there is no bottom. Under his tenure India can sink even lower. Suhaan and Frustrated 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You have to set your expectation high. Your goal should be high. You should leave a legacy when you retire. Be it is building a great unit that will server us for the next decade or so. Be it is instilling ruthless work ethics and culture among players that have a cascading effect. The impact has to be telling. He has now admitted they take as things come rather than take any proactive action. There is clear lack of future plan. Identify problems and address it instead of merely echo facts that we already knew long back. If he feels he is unable to enforce discipline and standards he should quit. The fielding by Indians is frankly high school level. Bangladesh women cricketers fielded better than our current team in West Indies. It is just that other areas are even worse. My concern is there is no bottom. Under his tenure India can sink even lower. You can set your expectations as high as you want, if you don't have the talent to meet those expectations then there is no point in having expecations.Coaches can only work with talent they have been given. I don't expect Indian coaches to develop best fast bowling culture in 5 years but what I expect from them is have a certain standards for fast bowlers.Dravid has ruined all the hard work done by previous TM in that regard. Same thing for batsmen , you need certain templates and minimum requirement for each format. Fielding along with fitness improved a lot under Kohli and Shastri even though catching was awful under them. But it has become worse under Dravid. It looks like Dravid is taking things as they come without having any idea on building a team for present and future needs. Edited August 16, 2023 by putrevus Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 10:28 AM, Vijy said: they will not phase them out. each will play till 41-42 like misbah They are actually phasing out Indian cricket Posters like 'putra'will phase out ICF in similar lines(with their same old rants,no tailunt no tailunt) nevada and express bowling 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Suhaan said: They are actually phasing out Indian cricket Posters like 'putra'will phase out ICF in similar lines(with their same old rants,no tailunt no tailunt) If anything we have too many talent at our disposal. Link to comment
putrevus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Having too many players does not equate to having too much talent. waga 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Having too many players does not equate to having too much talent. You can call it unfinished, unpolished. But you cannot say they are not talented. Most of the upcoming Indian players are talented. Most of them have all the basic ingredients. just needs to hone their skills in certain areas something that all the cricketers have to do. Suhaan, express bowling and tweaker 3 Link to comment
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