The Ashes 2023

[diga]

35 minutes ago, wazza said:

How the hell did we not figure this out. Such idiots we have in management. Mambray is useless.

One can make all the plans.. but someone needs to execute them on the field

[Lord]

37 minutes ago, wazza said:

How the hell did we not figure this out. Such idiots we have in management. Mambray is useless.

 

our bowlers are not used to bowling defensive lines

[wazza]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

our bowlers are not used to bowling defensive lines

They should be trained. Under bharat we were ruthless. This Mambray does nothing of use. 

[wazza]

9 minutes ago, diga said:

One can make all the plans.. but someone needs to execute them on the field

We can execute. We beat Aussies twice in their backyard. Drew with England etc. Competed well vs SA. Only failed in nz. 

 

We are more than capable. Infact if we pick the correct bowlers we are more capable than Aussie attack which is vastly overrated. 

 

It's our coach that needs to be changed. And our captain. Absolute shambles. 

Pathetic captaincy. 

[Lord]

Just now, wazza said:

They should be trained. Under bharat we were ruthless. This Mambray does nothing of use. 

 

Ishant is the missing factor. Under Bharat, Bumrah and Ishant used to bowl dry spells when needed. Now Bumrah is injured and Ishant is washed up. Yes we won Gabba without them but that was an anomaly.

 

We need such pacers who can bowl long spells and control runs if wickets are not coming 

[wazza]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Ishant is the missing factor. Under Bharat, Bumrah and Ishant used to bowl dry spells when needed. Now Bumrah is injured and Ishant is washed up. Yes we won Gabba without them but that was an anomaly.

 

We need such pacers who can bowl long spells and control runs if wickets are not coming 

Correct so why wasn't harshit or Sen picked. Sen is not injured iirc. 

 

If we picked them we had a good chance to win the final. I know our batting is useless but our bowling could have been fixed. They have some experience. They are used to limelight. Pressure is nothing. They feel pressure in ipl. Indian players are used to pressure in IPL. Fast bowlers have a short lifespan. India shouldn't be waiting to debut them. 

 

We won in Australia with rookie attack. Rookie batsman sundr did well too. He performed in India right after too. 

 

We just need to unleash them. Young hungry and talented but raw talent is much better than over the hill great/very good bowler. Umesh is beyond washed up. Shami is really 40. We should have used our brains. Even undacutta would have been a fine choice in England. 

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

our bowlers are not used to bowling defensive lines

We literally choked Australia in Australia with 2nd string attack,bowling coach is a sitting shyte

Mjambrey at best can coach school or junior cricket,that is what he used to do

[putrevus]

People keep talking as if Gabba is going to happen everyday. They keep referencing it for all the issues.

 

There is only one June 25 1983 and similarly there is only one Gabba.

 

What did Gill do in two finals , what did Siraj do in this finals.

[wazza]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

People keep talking as if Gabba is going to happen everyday. They keep referencing it for all the issues.

 

There is only one June 25 1983 and similarly there is only one Gabba.

 

What did Gill do in two finals , what did Siraj do in this finals.

Not just gabba. We drew in England too. 2 - 2 which should have been 3-1 in reality. 

 

We only sacked in NZ. 

 

Sa was competitive but we stuffed up by picking kela as captain. Captain kohli would have ensured correct bowlers would have been picked for conditions. Although batting woes and insistence to persevere with washed batsmen would still inhibit us. 

[Gollum]

Let us just admit that Bharat Arun was the vital cog in our test team from 2015-21. The MVP even sitting in the dugout. You get coaches like him once in a generation. 

[Nikhil_cric]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Ishant is the missing factor. Under Bharat, Bumrah and Ishant used to bowl dry spells when needed. Now Bumrah is injured and Ishant is washed up. Yes we won Gabba without them but that was an anomaly.

 

We need such pacers who can bowl long spells and control runs if wickets are not coming 

This. The WTC final showed how much of a difference having a varied attack with different release points can make a difference. 

 

India used to have that with Bumrah bowling with a wide release, Shami being relatively tighter and Ishant coming from a point which was higher. 

 

It was difficult for batters to line up these guys because you simply could not get used to it. 

 

FF to 2023 and you have Shami, Shardul and Umesh with almost exact points of release an only Siraj is different. 

[Suhaan]

What did Koolie and Rohit do in these two WTC finals?

[wazza]

23 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

What did Koolie and Rohit do in these two WTC finals?

Exactly. Also....bowling only bowled poor in 3 or 4 games in 7 years since ce 2015. What about batting? Barring pant. 

 

Bowling has been top class for years now. Only went down after stupid Mambray was at helm. 

 

Take Smith out of aus and then they lose easy to indua in the wtc final even in England against India with no prep 

 

We have 0 batsmen in the class of Smith labu or even head at the moment. Not to mention they got khawaja and green who is good enough. 

 

Only pant is quality and he is injured. 

 

Our young guns would have fared lot better and probably helped us win in all honesty. 

[Serpico]

Next match has rain threat on last 3 days which means England needs to play even more aggressively to force a result. Draw means Ashes gone.

 

All they had to do was pick a competent keeper like foakes and they would have probably won the first match. This is going to turn very ugly for McCullum if England can't turn around 

[LordPrabhzy]

Lolli Pope is injured and will miss the rest of the Ashes.

 

Wish Rahane slips on the Barbados beach and injures himself while taking down vada pav

[vvvslaxman]

21 hours ago, Serpico said:

Next match has rain threat on last 3 days which means England needs to play even more aggressively to force a result. Draw means Ashes gone.

 

All they had to do was pick a competent keeper like foakes and they would have probably won the first match. This is going to turn very ugly for McCullum if England can't turn around 

 

They were uber-confident of winning the Ashes. Downhill since the arrogant first day declaration.

[Gollum]

Simon Taufel: My experience is when people don’t like a dismissal under the Laws of Cricket, they cite the Spirit of Cricket to support their view.
 

— Sarah Waris (@swaris16) July 5, 2023

[Gollum]

I'm trying to ignore the whole thing because I really don't give a *, but I'm really struggling to comprehend the "Bairstow wasn't trying to gain an advantage so he shouldn't be out" takes. When did "batter trying to gain advantage" become a necessary part of a dismissal?

— Andrew Nixon (@andrewnixon79@mastodon.world) (@andrewnixon79) July 2, 2023

This is exactly what England will want - no one is focusing on the fact that they’ve lost two test matches in which they’ve won the toss, had the better of the conditions and at some point have been on top in the match. https://t.co/KRzCOrKjQf

— Kieran (@kieran_cricket) July 4, 2023

Dozy cricket from Colin De Grandhomme last year. The appeal was not withdrawn by England (video is courtesy of ECB) #Cricket pic.twitter.com/J2t6ELyFFp

— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) July 2, 2023

[Nikola]

Three changes from Lord's for England. 

 

↩️ Ollie Pope
↩️ Josh Tongue
↩️ Jimmy Anderson

 

↪️ Moeen Ali
↪️ Mark Wood
↪️ Chris Woakes
 

 

 

[wazza]

Look it's all fair in the game but no. I wouldn't want to win that way. Would I take the decision back by my captain? I personally would but I don't blame the captain for not doing so. Just not nice to win like this.