singhvivek141 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: But Jimmy forced his hand so much that he was removed? Do you think Agarkar will not survive if he does not get his salary as a selector for three years?He does not have to do anything if answer is no, he simply has to quit. Doing changes after world cup if India flops is not a big deal IMO. No one would bash Agarkar if he had said KL Rahul needs time and we don't feel he will be ready for world cup but he does not trust Kishen enough to give out that statement. Samething with Axar, Axar is not that important to be selected over guy like Tilak Verma. Who knows what discussion happened between Jimmy and Srini...Jimmy is usually known for his "on your face" attitude which probably would have irked Srini. Let's see what happens now..In ideal world KLR should be replaced by Tilak and Rohit by Jaiswal..for Axar we have replacements in Sundar and Bishnoi (or Ashwin). Playing someone with a dodgy fitness like KLR can potentially backfire us during the match Link to comment
putrevus Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Who knows what discussion happened between Jimmy and Srini...Jimmy is usually known for his "on your face" attitude which probably would have irked Srini. Let's see what happens now..In ideal world KLR should be replaced by Tilak and Rohit by Jaiswal..for Axar we have replacements in Sundar and Bishnoi (or Ashwin). Playing someone with a dodgy fitness like KLR can potentially backfire us during the match Rohit is the captain and you want him out that is bit too much. Where I have problem is having players who bring the same thing to the table. KL rahul is only playing if he is WK and Kishan has done reasonable well. There is no need to drop him. They might need an extra fast bowler so dropping Axar for Prasidh makes perfect sense. Instantly the team becomes more balanced.It does not need any hard decisions. Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: Three months is just an arbitary number you are throwing out. It is just a rough number indicating playing a few matches executing a certain role. 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: IMO these days it is not necessary. Can't have an entire squad of newbies. What is stopping them from preparing these youngsters in advance ? 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: Asia cup is here, guys like Prasidh and Tilak are in the squad. What is the need to remove them. Prasidh has already been tried in his role and is not a newbie. He should be in the squad. Tilak should be in the squad as a wild card entrant. But can't have more than one wild card entrants. 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: Why are we giving a guy who is just coming back from injury in KL rahul such importance. I can understand if it was Rohit , Kohli or Bumrah. Why is KL Rahul so special that he needs to be rushed from injury, what has he done in a decade to warrant that special status. If he is injured, Rahul should be dropped. 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: Axar and Jadeja don't belong in the same squad.Choose one it is not that hard. Axar is the backup allrounder. Edited September 4, 2023 by express bowling Suhaan, Norman and Mosher 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: It is just a rough number indicating playing a few matches executing a certain role. Can't have an entire squad of newbies. What is stopping them from preparing these youngsters in advance ? Prasidh has already been tried in his role and is not a newbie. He should be in the squad. Tilak should be in the squad as a wild card entrant. But can't have more than one wild card entrants. If he is injured, Rahul should be dropped. Axar is the backup allrounder. No need to prepare anybody. Having Tilak Verma and Prasidh does not weaken the squad.Tilak verma is a middle order bat who is a leftie and can bowl.So he is your backup allrounder. They are already in the squad now, why remove them is all I am saying. Edited September 4, 2023 by putrevus Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, putrevus said: No need to prepare anybody. Having Tilak Verma and Prasidh does not weaken the squad.Tilak verma is a middle order bat who is a leftie and can bowl.So he is your backup allrounder. They are already in the squad now, why remove them is all I am saying. You did not understand what I said. I want Prasidh and Tilak in the WC squad too. raki05, Suhaan and Mosher 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, express bowling said: You did not understand what I said. Frustrated, Norman and express bowling 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Rediff basically put out a masala news. Let us share official release instead of these half baked reports hence forth. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Rediff basically put out a masala news. Let us share official release instead of these half baked reports hence forth. Bledy felows Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Did anyone watch Aussies, NZ and England games ? This Indian team would be lucky if they reach semis. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 There is no point having Prasidh and Varma in the squad if they are not going to play in the Asia Cup against the strongest sides - Pakistan particularly. If Rohit is so confident of his WC XV, why even bother selecting these 2? These guys should be given as many games as possible and then a final decision should have been made before the 28th when we need the final squads. We already know what we get with Shami, Shardul, Jadeja, etc. If Prasidh and Varma did not work out, these guys could have been slotted in anyway. Now, on the other hand, if Jadeja continues to fail with bat and Shardul with both bat and ball - you will have to take Prasidh into the squad with little match practice against top sides. That's a terrible scenario. England have a very sophisticated selection process where they map what bowlers tend to be successful in a particular format in a particular venue and then look for bowlers who best fit that criteria - that's why Atkinson was selected. Ours probably depends on whether Kohli and Rohit struggle in the nets or not. Any bowler who can cause them problems in the nets probably will make the squad. Which is a problem. Neither Kohli nor Rohit can play left arm spin and they probably still can't play Shami when he bowls Test match line/length. So you will see Jadeja and Shami being selected for every ICC tournament even if they barely play anything in between. Norman 1 Link to comment
rageaddict Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Lol just noticed talks of squad announcement today at 1 PM then I wondered we already had a long discussion about the finalized squad on ICF, what was that all about ? Link to comment
rageaddict Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Lol just noticed talks of squad announcement today at 1 PM then I wondered we already had a long discussion about the finalized squad on ICF, what was that all about ? Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: There is no point having Prasidh and Varma in the squad if they are not going to play in the Asia Cup against the strongest sides - Pakistan particularly. If Rohit is so confident of his WC XV, why even bother selecting these 2? These guys should be given as many games as possible and then a final decision should have been made before the 28th when we need the final squads. We already know what we get with Shami, Shardul, Jadeja, etc. If Prasidh and Varma did not work out, these guys could have been slotted in anyway. Now, on the other hand, if Jadeja continues to fail with bat and Shardul with both bat and ball - you will have to take Prasidh into the squad with little match practice against top sides. That's a terrible scenario. England have a very sophisticated selection process where they map what bowlers tend to be successful in a particular format in a particular venue and then look for bowlers who best fit that criteria - that's why Atkinson was selected. Ours probably depends on whether Kohli and Rohit struggle in the nets or not. Any bowler who can cause them problems in the nets probably will make the squad. Which is a problem. Neither Kohli nor Rohit can play left arm spin and they probably still can't play Shami when he bowls Test match line/length. So you will see Jadeja and Shami being selected for every ICC tournament even if they barely play anything in between. Prasidh Krishna brings in the crucial element of height and bounce at pace. He is very different from our other pacers in the squad and can add a different kind of threat. He should be in the squad and play some matches too. Mosher, Vk1, raki05 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: Prasidh Krishna brings in the crucial element of height and bounce at pace. He is very different from our other pacers in the squad and can add a different kind of threat. He should be in the squad and play some matches too. so many times he has impressed in odis.. it will be tragic if he doesn't play consistently in world cup. Norman, express bowling and Mosher 3 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Prasidh Krishna brings in the crucial element of height and bounce at pace. He is very different from our other pacers in the squad and can add a different kind of threat. He should be in the squad and play some matches too. Why would you pick him in the World Cup squad if he's not going to play even against Nepal? Same with Tilak Varma . They should be thrown in against PAK and Australia to see what they bring to the table. Even if they do play 1 game and don't immediately deliver, they will be kept out. So there's no point in selecting them because Rohit has made his mind up. Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Why would you pick him in the World Cup squad if he's not going to play even against Nepal? Same with Tilak Varma . They should be thrown in against PAK and Australia to see what they bring to the table. Even if they do play 1 game and don't immediately deliver, they will be kept out. So there's no point in selecting them because Rohit has made his mind up. These guys just pick the seniors and don't think about team composition. Suhaan, Mosher and raki05 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Why would you pick him in the World Cup squad if he's not going to play even against Nepal? Same with Tilak Varma . They should be thrown in against PAK and Australia to see what they bring to the table. Even if they do play 1 game and don't immediately deliver, they will be kept out. So there's no point in selecting them because Rohit has made his mind up. Ship has sailed ,squad announcement today at 1:30pm Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: These guys just pick the seniors and don't think about team composition. Sapka Paisa bandha hua hai from their sponsers I e commission basis They can't go against it,it would sound cheap,but it is what it is Yesterday only,likes of Kaif and others were simping over Rohit and co. Mosher, express bowling, singhvivek141 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Ship has sailed ,squad announcement today at 1:30pm It's a provisional squad. final squad by 28th September I think Link to comment
Sooda Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Prasidh Krishna brings in the crucial element of height and bounce at pace. He is very different from our other pacers in the squad and can add a different kind of threat. He should be in the squad and play some matches too. Agreed, but hard to see who he would replace from the current 15 Whatever criticisms one directs at Thakur, he can bat a bit, makes a difference. I do not think we can drop the three front line pacemen. Only two of whom are likely to play in the final 11 anyway. As for Tilak, can make a case for him instead of SKY. But at least SKY has played SOME ODI cricket. And you can see why they want to invest in him with his talent. There could be a role for him at no 6 KL, has done well at 5, can see why they have given him every chance to get fit, hope he justifies it. I would not want him to start instead of Kishan though. Back up WK/batsman in the squad, and he needs to play as WK BAT vs Australia after the Asia Cup. All in all, it is the squad we all expected, and tbh probably the best possible 15 Edited September 5, 2023 by Sooda coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
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