Number Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 As added in the title, a hypothetical thread about what if these countries played cricket more seriously with local population having interest in the sport. 1. US - Would invest a lot in research/biomechanics of the sport. Would poach a lot of carrebian talent and create some absolute freaks fielders or bowlers breaking fast bowling records or some insane six hitters. 2. Brazil/Argentina - I guess will be around same level as India/Pakistan. Big talent pool, some really talented players coming through. Not as tactically good. 3. Germany/Netherlands - Will be big powerhouse. Will be like Aus or NZ of today in terms of efficiently utilising resources, strategies etc. Add more. Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Number said: As added in the title, a hypothetical thread about what if these countries played cricket more seriously with local population having interest in the sport. 1. US - Would invest a lot in research/biomechanics of the sport. Would poach a lot of carrebian talent and create some absolute freaks fielders or bowlers breaking fast bowling records or some insane six hitters. 2. Brazil/Argentina - I guess will be around same level as India/Pakistan. Big talent pool, some really talented players coming through. Not as tactically good. 3. Germany/Netherlands - Will be big powerhouse. Will be like Aus or NZ of today in terms of efficiently utilising resources, strategies etc. Add more. Would say top footballing nations in the top 10 would all excel in cricket if they utilise their reosurc3s well. India would still.be top 3 though. I do feel nedtherlands would be a top side. Top 4 /5. They have natural talent for fast bowling. Some African countries if it weren't for corruption would excel like Nigeria and Ghana. They have the athleticism athleticism compete with the top boys Number 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, harpicP said: India would still.be top 3 though. Lmao...no we won't be. US, Germany, Australia and England will dominate the sport. Remember Australia and England will take the sport even more seriously than today if it had a global reach. Their talent pool would be elite in that case next only to Football (in England) and maybe AFL in Australia. Link to comment
Norman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Forget about US, Germany Netherlands, Argentina etc... If Cricket was mildly popular in even mid level developed countries like Iran, Uzbekistan, Algeria, Egypt, Mexico etc...we'd have found it hard to stay a "top team". Our sports system is entirely messed up. Number, nitinbwj, Gollum and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, Norman said: Forget about US, Germany Netherlands, Argentina etc... If Cricket was mildly popular in even mid level developed countries like Iran, Uzbekistan, Algeria, Egypt, Mexico etc...we'd have found it hard to stay a "top team". Our sports system is entirely messed up. We struggle in sports because they aren't popular unlike cricket which is highly popular so has the talent to still be a top team. Number 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Norman said: Lmao...no we won't be. US, Germany, Australia and England will dominate the sport. Remember Australia and England will take the sport even more seriously than today if it had a global reach. Their talent pool would be elite in that case next only to Football (in England) and maybe AFL in Australia. Nha india will still be a top aide. I am assuming we would select based on merit If it were a global tournament. If we do our usual political based rubbish selection s then yes probably around 6-10. Cricket is a skilled based sport. Yes you need go be athletic but the skills etc you need to develop will take a very long time. It will be hard for those other nations barring a few to compete with India. Number 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, rkt.india said: We struggle in sports because they aren't popular unlike cricket which is highly popular so has the talent to still be a top team. We struggle cause we don't endorse sports We don't advocate for kids to play sports in schools as much as sena countries and Western countries in general. Ofcourse we can compete with anyone if we actually develop the right infrastructure and facilities for our young generation. China barely were top 10 in wrestling and boxing 10 years back. Now they are top 6 in hevayweight category for freestyle wrestling and they have a legit heavyweight boxer in top 10. Number 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 When Afghanistan started playing nobody thought they would produce an army of mytsery spinners. A country like who can easily poach players from other countries and crush any team. Number 1 Link to comment
Vickydev Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Ukraine. Would make me follow Women's cricket more closely Number 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: We struggle in sports because they aren't popular unlike cricket which is highly popular so has the talent to still be a top team. India has poor HDI compared to even Central Asian countries... We would have struggled big time. Heck entire South Asia would be humiliated like it does itself in Olympics or Football. Number 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Brazil, Argentina are way better in sports. Check Brazil's Olympics record, consistently get 15-20 medals. In Tokyo, 21. Don't compare any other region on this planet with South Asia....even famine/poverty/civil war struck North African countries are way ahead in sports. Number 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Field hockey is the only global team sport we can excel in. More Indians should follow/back our hockey players. Despite such a bleak period from 80s to 2000s, look at India's legacy in the sport. We basically have the Bradman and Sobers of the sport in the form of GOAT Dhyan Chand and Balbir Singh Sr. Number, LordPrabhzy and wanted_desi 3 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Gollum said: Field hockey is the only global team sport we can excel in. More Indians should follow/back our hockey players. Despite such a bleak period from 80s to 2000s, look at India's legacy in the sport. We basically have the Bradman and Sobers of the sport in the form of GOAT Dhyan Chand and Balbir Singh Sr. Hockey was popular and got hit when Ind won their 1st ODI wc, ppl found their new heros. And then Ind was v.v.late to first adopt to new astro-truff hockey and then modeling their game around it. Ind has made come back since with being top 5 teams in the world, they still lack in field goal conversion and unable to keep the top game in last few minutes of the game. Link to comment
tapandrun Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Number said: As added in the title, a hypothetical thread about what if these countries played cricket more seriously with local population having interest in the sport. 1. US - Would invest a lot in research/biomechanics of the sport. Would poach a lot of carrebian talent and create some absolute freaks fielders or bowlers breaking fast bowling records or some insane six hitters. 2. Brazil/Argentina - I guess will be around same level as India/Pakistan. Big talent pool, some really talented players coming through. Not as tactically good. 3. Germany/Netherlands - Will be big powerhouse. Will be like Aus or NZ of today in terms of efficiently utilising resources, strategies etc. Add more. US - Their system does not allow resources to be put in into team sports be it football, hockey or anyother. They have their own league and sports for team sports. Their player come from school/university system where emphasis is on olympics and their home grown sports NFL, ML, NBA. Brazil/Argentina/Mexico (similar to Ind.) - Can only put their money in 1 sport and that they follow by heart. European countries - They would be able to set-up good system, but ppl/public will gravitate towards more financially viable sport. Similar to Eng. where Football is more popular. Cricket is more popular amongst ppl who moved from subcontinent. Number 1 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Rashya: They will pump their already strong brutal fellows with all sorts of PEDs so they'll bowl at 200 kph and hit sixes from London to Vladivostok, and then exile them into hard labor camps in Siberia after they are caught match-fixing and losing the WC final. Number and Gollum 2 Link to comment
TellTheTruth Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) I think USA would be dominant. Their pretty similar to Australia culturally in the sporting sense, fans mostly follow their domestic leagues, Obsessed with their version of rugby, call football soccer and don't care much about it (compared to most other countries) but still put out decent teams. Australian cricketers like ian chappell and allan border even grew up playing baseball and credit it for some of their cricketing success. Plus US has a big ethnically diverse population and wont have an issue creating power hitters, express pace bowlers or genuine all rounders. Edited December 12, 2023 by TellTheTruth Link to comment
maniac Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Cricket is going to be an Olympic sport, so even if they are popular or not in their country: China,USA, Russia etc will start focusing on this more to further reduce subcontinent teams medal chances. Once they see Pak, Bangladesh, Srilanka, Afghan or to a much lesser extent India get free Olympic medals, they will take it seriously and then watch us be happy with bronze instead of complaining about why we lose finals and semis Link to comment
Lord Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, maniac said: Cricket is going to be an Olympic sport, so even if they are popular or not in their country: China,USA, Russia etc will start focusing on this more to further reduce subcontinent teams medal chances. Once they see Pak, Bangladesh, Srilanka, Afghan or to a much lesser extent India get free Olympic medals, they will take it seriously and then watch us be happy with bronze instead of complaining about why we lose finals and semis It'll take atleast 50 years to be as good as main teams. Link to comment
maniac Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lord said: It'll take atleast 50 years to be as good as main teams. It will take time but not 50 yrs that’s like 12 Olympic cycles. Look at Europe teams and other Asian teams like Korea,Japan or even Argentina etc in field hockey. They grew really fast in Hockey. @Gollum @neel roy probably will know this better but these teams can catch up soon. Right now there is no reason for them to invest in cricket, if it’s an Olympic sport then they will get funding and sponsors and can grow at a much accelerated rate. Nzl does that by sourcing and scouting players, Netherlands does that at a smaller level, non-cricketing countries will figure it out. Atleast USA etc will improve rapidly. Remember they can scout WI players too. Link to comment
BlueBlood Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 This hypothetical is hilarious. Afghanistan team is perfect example where they are already on par with SL, BD and other similar level teams. If they had more money and infrastructure support, they would have been top 3 by now. Just imagine Germany, US, Argentina, Brazil and even some of the smaller baseball heavy nations like Japan, Dominican Republic etc. Those guys would have brought incredible new innovative game plays. Just look at the shoulders of some of these baseball players and American football players... The only ones who even come close are the Aussies and England. It would change the game dramatically. A country like US would produce players like Flintoff, Kevin Pietersen, Kallis type tall, athletic freaks who will be all-rounders. I don't think any sub continental team would even stand a chance as the immigration policies don't allow importing better players. It's insane to say Indian team would even be in top 5. I would say Indian team would be the level of BD way behind. Link to comment
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