AuxiliA Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 Both Rohit and Kohli should play 1 last time imo. Rohit was the best striker among all the teams in the ODI WC just a few months ago. He's the best 6 hitter we have got. If he plays aggressively(which I believe he will), he'll be a huge asset. We actually need him lol. Kohli, even though out of his prime is still a good bet at no 3, as no youngster has really grabbed his spot yet. He also has a intimidation factor which his replacements don't. bowl_out 1
Sooda Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Gollum said: SKY, Ruturaj on WI pitches. Tilak, Washington You want us to lose to USA and Canada or what? Tilak was our best bat in the last WI tour, SKY is our best t20i bat. Yes it takes some time to adjust to the pace, both of the t20i tours to WI SKY came good in the last match, hopefully a few warm up matches will get his timing in place May be unlikely for Tilak anyway but he should be there, can bowl too.
Vijy Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gollum said: Since it is confirmed that Rohit will lead the side in WI Top 7 should read Jaiswal Rohit Kohli Pandya Rinku Jitesh Dube/Axar.... we should have jurel instead of jitesh; jurel has great temperament. I wouldn't want pandu either. can't bowl without breaking down, and his batting is more tuk-tuk every year. Edited March 13, 2024 by Vijy Gollum, express bowling and Suhaan 3
Gollum Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Vijy said: we should have jurel instead of jitesh; jurel has great temperament. I wouldn't want pandu either. can't bowl without breaking down, and his batting is more tuk-tuk every year. Hope Jurel has a fantastic IPL. I would have Pandu only if he bowls. If he does any drama about workload, injury, inability to bowl, he needs to be banned permanently from Indian cricket. There is a limit to his drama...we don't even want him vs minnows....max 6 games if we make it to the final, if he isn't ready to send in 20 odd overs in these games, what's the point of him? As a batsman he won't cut it. Vijy, Lone Wolf and Frustrated 3
Vijy Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 Just now, Gollum said: Hope Jurel has a fantastic IPL. I would have Pandu only if he bowls. If he does any drama about workload, injury, inability to bowl, he needs to be banned permanently from Indian cricket. There is a limit to his drama...we don't even want him vs minnows....max 6 games if we make it to the final, if he isn't ready to send in 20 odd overs in these games, what's the point of him? As a batsman he won't cut it. to look flashy and macho, before succumbing to his glass body again.
Chaos Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 (edited) If they make mosquito leg pandya captain everyone will target to take him out. He is useless worthless and should not be in t20team. Edited March 13, 2024 by Chaos nitinbwj and Frustrated 2
Adamant Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 11 hours ago, Gollum said: SKY, Ruturaj on WI pitches. Tilak, Washington You want us to lose to USA and Canada or what? He goes more with IPL performance rather than watching them perform against good bowling attacks. All of them will fail in Windies.
Adamant Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Ruturaj is a pretty good player of spin. It's not that outlandish . Ruturaj is not international standard. Mark my words, bookmark my post.
Vijy Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 4 hours ago, Adamant said: He goes more with IPL performance rather than watching them perform against good bowling attacks. All of them will fail in Windies. Don't forget that glassman Pandu.
New guy Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 (edited) Haven't won a single t20 cup for 17+ years yet fans want the same tactics and same style of play. Stat padders on top, real hitters barely getting time in middle. Then same padders choke in knock outs, the youngsters without practice are thrown in the middle and blamed. Rinse and repeat for 17 more years. The hate for relatively new attacking youngsters and prediction of them failing is hilarious. At least players like SKY are trying something different than the same tried and tested timid approach. But but but SKY would fail in those pitches you guys.. dude what have we won in 17 years that we don't even want to try something else? What do we have to lose? We will lose? But we already are, for 17+ years. . We will get knocked out early? Ok, what has our safe approach won for us? In the only t20 wc we won dhoni made yusuf pathan directly open in final against Asif, Gul and Tanvir when he had never opened before. That's the kind of gutsy decisions you need to win, not tired and tested same approach. I often feel Indian fans deserve having no trophies for over a decade and nearly two decades in t20. They are always concerned about individual players and stats and superstars, never what approach works for the team. England changed ODI approach in 2019 and won a cup. They had to change everything from approach to team combination to get out of their loser mentality. Yet Indian fans want more of the same. They love their stats and relentlessly attack those who even try something different. Play safe, get 50s and you will be loved, try something else, abuses and big prediction about failures. Madness is trying the same formula everytime and expecting different results. A weaker middle order which barely gets time to play in the middle, attacking batsmen being confused because they barely get balls all are a direct result of having batsmen playing long safe innings at top. They eat up most of the balls. Weak middle and lower order and confused youngsters barely getting to play is not a bug, it's a feature of having stat padders on top. Exact same thing happened when babar and rizwan were opening for pak there were zero middle order bats or finishers who could perform. Same thing will happen in any team which has batsmen playing long safe innings at top. People need to understand t20 is very different from ODIs, it's about making optimum use of those 120 balls and what works for the team, not about 50s and averages and long innings. It tells a lot when even Indian selectors have more progressive mentality than the stat lovers here. Edited March 14, 2024 by New guy express bowling 1
Nikhil_cric Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 7 hours ago, New guy said: Haven't won a single t20 cup for 17+ years yet fans want the same tactics and same style of play. Stat padders on top, real hitters barely getting time in middle. Then same padders choke in knock outs, the youngsters without practice are thrown in the middle and blamed. Rinse and repeat for 17 more years. The hate for relatively new attacking youngsters and prediction of them failing is hilarious. At least players like SKY are trying something different than the same tried and tested timid approach. But but but SKY would fail in those pitches you guys.. dude what have we won in 17 years that we don't even want to try something else? What do we have to lose? We will lose? But we already are, for 17+ years. . We will get knocked out early? Ok, what has our safe approach won for us? In the only t20 wc we won dhoni made yusuf pathan directly open in final against Amir, Gul and Tanvir when he had never opened before. That's the kind of gutsy decisions you need to win, not tired and tested same approach. I often feel Indian fans deserve having no trophies for over a decade and nearly two decades in t20. They are always concerned about individual players and stats and superstars, never what approach works for the team. England changed ODI approach in 2019 and won a cup. They had to change everything from approach to team combination to get out of their loser mentality. Yet Indian fans want more of the same. They love their stats and relentlessly attack those who even try something different. Play safe, get 50s and you will be loved, try something else, abuses and big prediction about failures. Madness is trying the same formula everytime and expecting different results. A weaker middle order which barely gets time to play in the middle, attacking batsmen being confused because they barely get balls all are a direct result of having batsmen playing long safe innings at top. They eat up most of the balls. Weak middle and lower order and confused youngsters barely getting to play is not a bug, it's a feature of having stat padders on top. Exact same thing happened when babar and rizwan were opening for pak there were zero middle order bats or finishers who could perform. Same thing will happen in any team which has batsmen playing long safe innings at top. People need to understand t20 is very different from ODIs, it's about making optimum use of those 120 balls and what works for the team, not about 50s and averages and long innings. It tells a lot when even Indian selectors have more progressive mentality than the stat lovers here. We need to stop building up individual players and their brands to this extent. Too many cult fans of certain players are overly defensive when their favourites get criticised . Also, fans don't take into account when a player has declined . Kohli in 2016 was, arguably, an elite T20 player. At least a case could be made for that. In 2024, he is a shadow of the player he was. Props to Indian TM for giving someone like Shivam Dubey a chance in the middle order. We need to keep trying such players out to make an ideal T20 XI The last 3 seasons he has dismantled spin at 150 strike rate in the middle overs Having a top order of only classical RHB's , along with the lack of batting depth with fake allrounders playing at #7 has hurt India a lot. New guy 1
Adamant Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 Shivam Dubey, just look at the cluelessness. I am really stunned. Ipl superstars won’t survive in international cricket. Pick under 19 batch cricketers along with the current batch.
Chaos Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 18 hours ago, Adamant said: Ruturaj is not international standard. Mark my words, bookmark my post. why bookmark, every tom dick kumar n patel knows ruturaj sucks
AKane Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 Whereas having the WTC after the IPL is a problem having the T20 WC in June right after the IPL will be almost an unfair advantage. Who can play the primed and tuned IPL stars right after the IPL end in May in June? The rest of the teams in the world should protest the ICC for the unfair advantage rendered to India ..... No point in this tournament - just hand India the trophy. tweaker and nevada 2
Vijy Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 7 hours ago, AKane said: Whereas having the WTC after the IPL is a problem having the T20 WC in June right after the IPL will be almost an unfair advantage. Who can play the primed and tuned IPL stars right after the IPL end in May in June? The rest of the teams in the world should protest the ICC for the unfair advantage rendered to India ..... No point in this tournament - just hand India the trophy. yes, with our fearsome pacer quartet of undercutter roberts, gutkesh holding, prasidh garner, and thakur marshall. AKane 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 You can't drop Rohit. Only ROhit can drop :) rollingstoned 1
Adamant Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: You can't drop Rohit. Only ROhit can drop :) How often is Kohli criticised for dropping catches. He is our most efficient catcher, lol. People just love to hate him
gattaca Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 20 minutes ago, Adamant said: How often is Kohli criticised for dropping catches. He is our most efficient catcher, lol. People just love to hate him Kohli did drop off crucial ones may be not many in WC but drops quite a bit. The test match in NZ we should have went won but bmac scored 300 after Kohli dropped it.
Suhaan Posted March 15, 2024 Author Posted March 15, 2024 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Adamant said: How often is Kohli criticised for dropping catches. He is our most efficient catcher, lol. People just love to hate him Bahut love karte ho tum yaaar Sohni Mahivall ,Heer Ranjha fail iss mohabbat ke aage You are man of love Aashiqman Edited March 15, 2024 by Suhaan AuxiliA, VT87, express bowling and 3 others 6
vvvslaxman Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Adamant said: How often is Kohli criticised for dropping catches. He is our most efficient catcher, lol. People just love to hate him He has some really costly drops in Tests. Famous one was Baz drop. cost us 294 runs. Most recently in Bangladesh he dropped 3 catches in 30 minutes. New guy 1
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