Why gill ahead of Abhishek in t20s??

[gakgupta]

Sometimes ... I wonder why can't selectors take these simple decisions?? If you ask 100 people in India and 90 will say Abhishek..

 

Moreover...Abhishek will roll his arm over ... If required 

 

Is this the pressure from some unknown corners or selectors are dump??

 

Which one ??

[Chakdephatte]

Gambhir said If one is good he should play all formats. 

 

I am afraid he would now do this to Bumrah and throw him in some tingu series. He says he does not believe in workload management 

Edited July 27, 2024 by Chakdephatte

[Majestic]

Nothing wrong with Gill. Why Abhishek is not in the squad is a question?

 

Also, Pant is useless in T20s.

[Lord]

53 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Gambhir said If one is good he should play all formats. 

 

I am afraid he would now do this to Bumrah and throw him in some tingu series. He says he does not believe in workload management 

 

Don't worry he changes opinions everyday

 

[prudent_kreeda]

While it will be a best combination if Abhishek comes into T20 X1 , it is also wrong to dismiss Gill as a T20 batter. 

I think the roles & expectations have been specified by new management and expect he will add few shots in his game esp. vs spin and play with little more intent . He is already a 135 -140 strike rate player but needs to become  145 -155 strike rate player.

It is equally important to see team does not land up at 3 down within 3 overs often to be very good team,, Thats where Gill has a place .

Gill can be useful  at  #3 too ,especially if India wants to see off 1-2 overs if pitch conditions demand. Think TM would have this expectation from Gill . 

Also right -Left combo which new management is so keen to follow may mean they keep GILL -Jaiswal as openers to start with.  

 

Right now Sharma needs to improve control over his bowling and be able to bowl 1-2 overs if needed & become a versatile player and can be  a replacement for either Gill or Parag & bat as opener , 1 down or 2 down as per situation .

Have a feeling Abhi would be more consistent at #3  or #4 than as opener in SENA  initially till he tightens his game a bit as opener.  

 

 

 

[gakgupta]

On 7/30/2024 at 1:25 PM, prudent_kreeda said:

While it will be a best combination if Abhishek comes into T20 X1 , it is also wrong to dismiss Gill as a T20 batter. 

I think the roles & expectations have been specified by new management and expect he will add few shots in his game esp. vs spin and play with little more intent . He is already a 135 -140 strike rate player but needs to become  145 -155 strike rate player.

It is equally important to see team does not land up at 3 down within 3 overs often to be very good team,, Thats where Gill has a place .

Gill can be useful  at  #3 too ,especially if India wants to see off 1-2 overs if pitch conditions demand. Think TM would have this expectation from Gill . 

Also right -Left combo which new management is so keen to follow may mean they keep GILL -Jaiswal as openers to start with.  

 

Right now Sharma needs to improve control over his bowling and be able to bowl 1-2 overs if needed & become a versatile player and can be  a replacement for either Gill or Parag & bat as opener , 1 down or 2 down as per situation .

Have a feeling Abhi would be more consistent at #3  or #4 than as opener in SENA  initially till he tightens his game a bit as opener.  

 

 

 

His bowling will not improve by keeping him out of the team

[Ultimate_Game]

I don't know why someone like Samson is picked ahead of Abhishek. Samson is useless in intls - an IPL player at best and a poor wkt keeper. Abhishek should've been in the squad and played ahead of him as opener. Also time to think of Jitesh or Jurel as backup wkt keepers to Pant ahead of Samson.

[cricketfan28]

Gill is the next superstar.

[Bigg Brother]

Gill isn't as bad as people have made it out to be.  Abhishek will get his chances only if Gill/Jaiswal fails miserably.

[Gollum]

Our obsession with 3 format players, and superstar culture, player lobby, PR, endorsements etc.

[Sandz]

29 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Our obsession with 3 format players, and superstar culture, player lobby, PR, endorsements etc.

The problem is that everyone wants to be a T20 player first and then anything else due to IPL. So you are not going to find any ODI or Test specialists anymore and have to pick them from T20 lot which invariably leads to all format players.

[Stan AF]

Stop overrating players based on one IPL

[Ultimate_Game]

On 7/30/2024 at 3:55 AM, prudent_kreeda said:

While it will be a best combination if Abhishek comes into T20 X1 , it is also wrong to dismiss Gill as a T20 batter. 

I think the roles & expectations have been specified by new management and expect he will add few shots in his game esp. vs spin and play with little more intent . He is already a 135 -140 strike rate player but needs to become  145 -155 strike rate player.

It is equally important to see team does not land up at 3 down within 3 overs often to be very good team,, Thats where Gill has a place .

Gill can be useful  at  #3 too ,especially if India wants to see off 1-2 overs if pitch conditions demand. Think TM would have this expectation from Gill . 

Also right -Left combo which new management is so keen to follow may mean they keep GILL -Jaiswal as openers to start with.  

 

Right now Sharma needs to improve control over his bowling and be able to bowl 1-2 overs if needed & become a versatile player and can be  a replacement for either Gill or Parag & bat as opener , 1 down or 2 down as per situation .

Have a feeling Abhi would be more consistent at #3  or #4 than as opener in SENA  initially till he tightens his game a bit as opener.  

 

 

 

 

If they want to persist with Gill, he can be at 3 and take Kohli's position. Abhishek and Jaiswal should open and go for it just like English and Aussie openers do. Gill can come in and play the Kohli role at 3.

[Strangering]

The correct answer is - sample size. 

 

Shubman Gill has performed well against top quality opponents to a point of proving himself as worthy. He has potential to be great in more than one continents and formats. His Domestic performances are very good. Shubman had something like 800+ runs in just one IPL prior as a 22-23 years old kid. You don't drop potential greats because of one average IPL season. You have to look at the entire body of work. Gill has succeeded more than he has failed, yes, even in T20s. 

 

Abhishek Sharma is a past IPL's wonderboy. He has great potential. Domestic performances are inconsistent. We don't know much more about him.

 

By comparison, Saurabh Tiwary was also an IPL wonderboy at one time. Tiwary also has better domestic record than Abhishek. Abhishek will get a chance. He has to wait his turn. The management is giving due diligence to guys like Sanju Samson, for example. This is a great time to shuffle through all the options and then figure out your best mix in about 9-12 months. 

 

Imagine if Dhoni had dropped Kohli in 2012. The ready replacement was Rohit Sharma. Instead, Rohit's test career was delayed on purpose. Rest is history!

 

Gill and Jaiswal are a cut above in terms of talent. 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2024 by Strangering

[Need4Speed]

Gill is good but I see him a replacement for Kohli..so good for number 3 imo..to stabilize innings if an early wkt falls..the batting positions can be kept floating..as per the requirements..

 

Here is my t20 squad if some new players prove their potential:

 

Jswal

Abhishek —needs to prove potential

Gill

SKY

Pant\wk

Parag—- needs to prove potential

Pandya

Harshit Rana —needs to prove potential

Kuldeep

Boom

Yadav—needs to prove fitness+potential

 

Explosive batting till 8

sharp pace bowlers,good spinner,handy pace AR and extra options in Sharma and Parag

 

Backups: Bishnoi,Arshdeep,Axar,Rinku.--The backups are very capable too..and can replace main xi players if required.

 

 

[IndianRenegade]

it shouldn't have been Gill vs Abhishek. There are others in the T20 squad who don't deserve to be in it.

[vvvslaxman]

Gill is being groomed by BCCI. All he needs is one clutch innings that win a tournament or something. He is all set to be commercialized.

[Ultimate_Game]

56 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

it shouldn't have been Gill vs Abhishek. There are others in the T20 squad who don't deserve to be in it.

 

Gill vs Abhishek for the opening slot. Jaiswal is given to start and there's only one other opening position. Abhishek is ideally suited for it as he can make the most of playoffs and his game is built to take advantage of PP overs. Gill can bat at 3 and play the role of Kohli. Both can and should be in the team but Abhishek is better suited to open.

[Ultimate_Game]

52 minutes ago, BlueBlood said:

Lol at people saying Abishek needs to prove his potential but Gill doesn't.

 

Gill was dropped for T20 WC. If he really was special he would have opened in T20 WC

 

Kohli and Gill batting in the same team would've doomed India. We can only carry one anchor at a time.

[Suhaan]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Gill is being groomed by BCCI. All he needs is one clutch innings that win a tournament or something. He is all set to be commercialized.

Gill will rather play a KO loosing knock to knock out India ,BCCI might be waiting for it