Ultimate_Game Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Folks, I'm really torn on this one. Can't decide who's the most selfish runner between "King" Kohli and lower order "power hitter" extraordinaire Jadeja. Both have a storied history and a stellar record of running their partners out. And the best part is they generally run the better batter and don't discriminate across partners. They can run partners out in Tests, ODIs, T20s irrespective of match situation. For them every match and situation is an opportunity to show how important they're compared to other "lesser" batters and run them out. My personal opinion is that Jadeja had an insurmountable lead but King has shown the world over the last 2-3 years that he's the King for a reason and that lesser mortals don't matter, and are meant to be sacrificed at the altar of the King's throne. When you factor in the overall body of work, and impact of the dismissals, I'm leaning towards the King but would like to hear from all of you. So who out of them is more selfish and wins the face-off? Whom out of these two would be the last batter standing after running out everyone else? tweaker, rollingstoned, Stan AF and 1 other 4
maniac Posted April 10 Posted April 10 One thing I will give Kohli is he is not selfish runner. He runs the other players runs hard too. A quality he picked up from Sachin Jadeja don’t think he is selfish, just brainless and clueless at times. a good batsman knows the strength and weakness of his batting partner but Jadeja gets brain farts. Laaloo, cricspirit, Lord and 1 other 4
Ultimate_Game Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 5 hours ago, Lord said: Do we have stats for Jadeja too? Also, what about non-ipl runouts?
Texan Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Thala Will never give strike to anyone else in the last over, even if there was Viv Richards waiting at the other end. Manucrick and tweaker 2
Ultimate_Game Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 25 minutes ago, Texan said: Thala Will never give strike to anyone else in the last over, even if there was Viv Richards waiting at the other end. That's a different topic. That's hogging strike. This thread is more about running their partner out. Texan 1
Ultimate_Game Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Judge yourself Salt was in such wonderful touch that he would've won RCB the match. Then "King" Kohli happened rollingstoned and coffee_rules 2
singhvivek141 Posted April 11 Posted April 11 @Ultimate_Game you have asked an extremely tough question. Both are notorious for being selfish, only difference is for one, atleast people would like him to stay on the crease, while for other, people would like him to get the shut out as soon as possible (replace the word shut with a 4 letter word which starts with f).
Ultimate_Game Posted April 11 Author Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: @Ultimate_Game you have asked an extremely tough question. Both are notorious for being selfish, only difference is for one, atleast people would like him to stay on the crease, while for other, people would like him to get the shut out as soon as possible (replace the word shut with a 4 letter word which starts with f). Very tough question which I couldn't figure out. I would love to see Kohli and Jadeja bat together and see what happens
Gollum Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) Jadeja, because I don't remember him ever sacrificing his wicket, only plays for his not outs and stats. When he is batting he doesn't care about match result, that's the impression I get. Kohli I remember sacrificing his wicket a couple of times for Rohit a long time back. This version of Kohli is more consumed by milestones/stats but wasn't always the case. Edited April 11 by Gollum Lone Wolf and nevada 2
rollingstoned Posted April 11 Posted April 11 11 hours ago, maniac said: One thing I will give Kohli is he is not selfish runner. He runs the other players runs hard too. A quality he picked up from Sachin Jadeja don’t think he is selfish, just brainless and clueless at times. a good batsman knows the strength and weakness of his batting partner but Jadeja gets brain farts. Jadeja's runouts a lot of the time are because he brainlessly hits the ball firmly straight to midoff or midon and just takes off. Partner has no option but to also run. Lord 1
Rightarmfast Posted April 11 Posted April 11 Jadeja isn't just selfish, he is outright toxic and vindictive too. I remember how he got Sarfaraz out very very intentionally. That man has issues. The Hound and AuxiliA 1 1
The Hound Posted April 11 Posted April 11 Two jadeja run outs that really pissed me off 1) Pandya in that CT final 2) Sarfaraz In his debut test when he was bashing England all around tweaker and Rightarmfast 2
New guy Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) 15 hours ago, maniac said: One thing I will give Kohli is he is not selfish runner. He runs the other players runs hard too. A quality he picked up from Sachin Jadeja don’t think he is selfish, just brainless and clueless at times. a good batsman knows the strength and weakness of his batting partner but Jadeja gets brain farts. If this was true, the number of times kohli got run out would be similar to the number of times the other player got run out. The other player getting run out over 75% of time is damning statistics. Edited April 11 by New guy
maniac Posted April 11 Posted April 11 3 hours ago, New guy said: If this was true, the number of times kohli got run out would be similar to the number of times the other player got run out. The other player getting run out over 75% of time is damning statistics. Inzimnam must be the most unselfish cricketer in the world for getting runout so many times.
bowl_out Posted April 11 Posted April 11 Jadeja isn't selfish. He is stupid while running between wickets. His judgement of tight singles and non existent runs is generally poor. Kohli on the other hand has many instances of selling his partner down the river and prioritizing saving his wicket. So picked Kohli
cricspirit Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) Bad runners are not necessarily selfish. Don't see either of them being selfish runners. They both are fast and run hard. They make bad decisions often in going for runs. But it's not always their fault no matter who gets out. Being involved in run outs doesn't mean selfish intentions. Picked Virat for the Poll but generally never thought of him as a selfish runner. Selfish in other aspects but not running. Edited April 11 by cricspirit
Ultimate_Game Posted April 11 Author Posted April 11 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gollum said: Jadeja, because I don't remember him ever sacrificing his wicket, only plays for his not outs and stats. When he is batting he doesn't care about match result, that's the impression I get. Kohli I remember sacrificing his wicket a couple of times for Rohit a long time back. This version of Kohli is more consumed by milestones/stats but wasn't always the case. Yup, things changed 2019 onwards. But at the moment I would Kohli as more selfish than Jadeja. Kohli has managed to get the main batter out - Pant against NZ, Jaiswal against Aus, Salt yesterday. And in each case the dismissal changed the fortune of the match. In terms of negative impact, Kohli has been far worse than Jadeja. Edited April 11 by Ultimate_Game
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