jf1gp_1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I agree, forefathers knew ambition, thought etc etc were about blowing oneself up. Hence the smart ones stayed back in India.
singhvivek141 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 2 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Truth is, their forefathers were phattu, napunsak, coward and cuck. Those cheap* converts have shown in the 1971 war how 93000 of them surrendered within 14 days. How in 1999 they didn't even accept the bodies of their dead soldiers. That's why I feel proud that despite facing difficult times, our forefathers stand behind their true religion and didn't convert under the pretext of greed or fear. Sanatan Dharma and its co branches (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism & other tribal religions) are the real bravehearts. Even the Parsis who are our distant cousins needs to be appreciated for the same. Muloghonto, Laaloo and sorak 3
Gollum Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I appreciate the clarity and conviction behind his words. Lord, ravishingravi, mishra and 3 others 1 5
mishra Posted April 18 Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Gollum said: I appreciate the clarity and conviction behind his words. Exactly. They know what they want. The ones that matter also say exactly what they want. Pakistan is a ideaology and people subscribing to it comes from same Bharat. Border or administrative mechanism is just biproduct of it. sorak, Muloghonto and Vicks57 3
Lone Wolf Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Fully agree with Munir here. Tight slap to Aman ki Asha types. Clarity of thought must be appreciated. Partition was the best thing to Happen to India
Lone Wolf Posted April 18 Posted April 18 3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Truth is, their forefathers were phattu, napunsak, coward and cuck. Those cheap* converts have shown in the 1971 war how 93000 of them surrendered within 14 days. How in 1999 they didn't even accept the bodies of their dead soldiers. That's why I feel proud that despite facing difficult times, our forefathers stand behind their true religion and didn't convert under the pretext of greed or fear. Sanatan Dharma and its co branches (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism & other tribal religions) are the real bravehearts. Even the Parsis who are our distant cousins needs to be appreciated for the same. I was reading about Banda Bahadur few days back who was a Dogra Rajput from Jammu... Spine chilling stuff. Can understand why Sikhs call him Guru da banda. Deep respect for our ancestors who never gave up on Dharma. Unparalleled sacrifice mishra, randomGuy and singhvivek141 3
jf1gp_1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I want someone neta to talk like trump. Reply should be - asif munir keep barking.
mishra Posted April 18 Posted April 18 11 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: I want someone neta to talk like trump. Reply should be - asif munir keep barking. 2035 is the key year if things keep going th way they are going. Ghar Vapasi will start
mishra Posted April 18 Posted April 18 22 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: I was reading about Banda Bahadur few days back who was a Dogra Rajput from Jammu... Spine chilling stuff. Can understand why Sikhs call him Guru da banda. Deep respect for our ancestors who never gave up on Dharma. Unparalleled sacrifice Share story
Lone Wolf Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mishra said: Share story I was actually watching a documentary on him.. His death was barbaric to the say the least. But guy achieved so much with nothing in a short span of time. Protected Hindus and Sikhs. Short mai padh lo https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Banda_Singh_Bahadur Edited April 18 by Lone Wolf mishra, sorak and ravishingravi 3
singhvivek141 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: I was reading about Banda Bahadur few days back who was a Dogra Rajput from Jammu... Spine chilling stuff. Can understand why Sikhs call him Guru da banda. Deep respect for our ancestors who never gave up on Dharma. Unparalleled sacrifice Our history is filled up with such sacrifices, due to which we are still living the same culture (more or less) which our ancestors have followed atleast since 11000 years ago. Whether its the sacrifice of Guru Teg Bahadur or Chhatrapati Sambhaji, Lachit Badphukkan or even the stories of Ajit Singh, Jujhar Singh, Zorawar Singh & Fateh Singh. Modern history of Sanatan Dharma is alive on these braveness of these legends. raki05, Laaloo, Lord and 1 other 3 1
jf1gp_1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 It's hilarious to see bangladeshi crawling back to original master pakistan. I guess got the orders from new master china. Asif will now give a India made two nation theory in 1971.
ravishingravi Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Another guy called BR Ambedkar believed the same and with greater clarity. B.R. Ambedkar initially opposed the idea of Partition, but later, in his book "Pakistan or the Partition of India," he argued that it was necessary to create separate states for Muslims and non-Muslims, particularly in regions like Bengal and Punjab, where the two groups were not as unified. He believed that redrawing provincial boundaries to separate Muslim and non-Muslim majority areas would be beneficial for both groups. [1, 2, 3] Ambedkar's Arguments for Partition: [3, 4] Homogeneity: Ambedkar argued that a unified India would be a "sick man of Asia" due to the presence of Muslim areas considered "an anomalous excrescence" on Hindustan. He believed that separating these areas would create more homogeneous and stronger states. [3, 3] Redrawing Boundaries: He suggested redrawing provincial boundaries in Bengal and Punjab to separate Muslim and non-Muslim majority regions, allowing for a more harmonious coexistence, according to Wikipedia. [1, 1, 2, 2] Muslim Grievances: Ambedkar recognized that Muslims had grievances against their treatment by the Congress, suggesting that a separate state would address these concerns, according to a post on allaboutambedkaronline.com. [1, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5] Religious Identity: Ambedkar emphasized the importance of religious identity and the feeling of "consciousness of kind," arguing that it could override other differences like economic or social ones, according to a post on Goodreads. [6, 6] Separate Elections: Ambedkar proposed conducting separate polls for Muslims and non-Muslims in predominantly Muslim provinces to assess the sentiment for partition, according to People's Archive of Rural India. [1, 1] Ambedkar's Initial Opposition: [1, 7, 8] Ancient Unity: Initially, Ambedkar expressed reservations about the idea of Partition, citing the historical unity of India as a single geographical and cultural entity, according to The Sunday Guardian Live. Multiculturalism: He was concerned that Partition would destroy the ancient beauty of India's multiculturalism. Communal Antagonism: Ambedkar noted that communal antagonism was not unique to India and that many countries faced similar issues. [7, 7] Generative AI is experimental. [1] https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/dr-babasaheb-ambedkar-vol-8-pakistan-or-the-partition-of-india/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar [3] https://www.allaboutambedkaronline.com/post/why-ambedkar-supported-partition-remarks-on-pakistan-or-the-partition-of-india [4] https://franpritchett.com/00ambedkar/ambedkar_partition/index.html [5] https://www.pgurus.com/was-ambedkar-anti-hindu/ [6] https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/506133-pakistan-or-partition-of-india [7] https://sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/dr-ambedkars-thoughts-on-partition-shouldnt-be-ignored [8] https://thewire.in/politics/reading-ambedkar-right-to-understand-what-ails-bjps-dalit-politics
coffee_rules Posted April 18 Posted April 18 13 hours ago, rangeelaraja said: Agree 100 % that Pakistan had four fathers.
Muloghonto Posted April 18 Posted April 18 9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Fully agree with Munir here. Tight slap to Aman ki Asha types. Clarity of thought must be appreciated. Partition was the best thing to Happen to India partition of India is temporary in the long scheme of things. What is the order of the day is further partitions of Pakistan and Bangladesh. We know this is war. This has been war from 1947. Now, many Indians are waking up to this reality. That Pakistan + BD exist as national identity to BE anti-India. Okay. we accept challenge, but lets hope more and more HINOs (Hindus In Name Only) see this instead of being western libbu bootlickers of ram-raheem tehzeeb crap that is Islamist colonialism propaganda. And to be honest, Pakistan being snipped out isnt off the table either. if Afghanistan can be given Khyber and reliably trusted to at least stabilize the region & balochistan can be made independent without being gobbled by Iran, pakistan partition is not far away in our lifetimes. Things have already begun working towards this and things will only accelerate towards this in the coming decades. Ultimately, Cheen is vyapari. It wants Gwadar, not Pakistan and in Cheen's worst case scenario, if Afg + Balochistan is stable, then screw pakistan, it can still do Gwadar with a little bit of extra re-routing through afg+central Asia, which is already fairly cheen-pacified. We know this, Pakistan knows this, the whole world knows this, time for Indians to get to know this and give pakistan another round of chataii. Them being 'nyookoolar' wont prevent them from losing the western half of their country if we play our cards right and Iran is on board. Because we know Afg and Baloch are on board. Pakjabi army will find out and keep finding out that afghanistan side pasthuns are not idiots at warfare and fully understand terrain and logistics in engaging a traditional army with air power and tank power and artillery power in their own home terrain. This is why Afghanistan, like Vietnam, is like a porcupine-honeybader nation : looks small and edible to behemonths but is not and is gonna be the death of you via gale-me-haddi. They not only have terrain advantage for defence, they also have a people who understand the logistics of war in their own terrain innately at a tribal level and doesnt need a genius fellow to show up to lead them to teach them how to fight a superior enemy in their own damn hills and valleys.
coffee_rules Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) On 4/18/2025 at 11:46 AM, ravishingravi said: Our ex RAW chief Apni Amma aur behen ko bhejna, to move on with Pakistan, BC. Such libbus are the reason, why India takes two steps forward and 3 steps backwards in batting Pakistan. Edited April 22 by coffee_rules raki05 1
IndianRenegade Posted April 22 Posted April 22 time to make this mfer pay for what happened in Pahalgam, days of taking out an unkown terrorists are over. Any b#stard running the terroist nation should know he is a dead man walking. coffee_rules 1
AshVin Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) He's actually right. Hindus and Muslims are completely different. Muslims come from a desert, tribal background where looting and taking over resources from another tribe to survive in the desert is the norm. Hinduism on the other hand came from resource rich subcontinent where co-existing developed as there was enough resources for all. If you observe present day behavior of Hindus and Muslims, this would be so obvious. The Muslims always have an eye on non-Muslim resources be it in India or Europe. Edited April 22 by AshVin sorak, Muloghonto, Lord and 3 others 1 5
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