Operation sindoor

[Real McCoy]

Just now, singhvivek141 said:

We are only delaying in inevitable.

 

Remember...the battles that we choose to skip today, our next generations will have to fight them in future.

 

The war of Civilization is at our doorstep, we can keep out head buried in sand like an Ostrich and just do bare minimum to escape the pains of war.

 

 

Also future generations would have it harder. They may have all the latest weapons. They also have to deal with the demographic shift. With their motivation getting a boost yesterday, pakmil will send more jihadis towards India and even camp there acting like locals. Dude this government has not even put a stop towards bang bros and rohingya invasion illefgal immigration

[singhvivek141]

10 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Seriously. I lost it an hr back when I opened twitter. Pakistani are celebrating as if they are today sitting in Chennai. 

Tbh...the govt their will bend over for them, if they even arrive today.

 

All this support to Armed forces propaganda is just a facade. 

[MechEng]

@ravishingravi what people are angry about is that we have failed to achieve the objective of these strikes - to set a deterrence.

 

Now Pak army knows our threshold, no matter how strong India is, just call US and Indians immediately go backfoot.

 

Also, this has ended up giving Pak army more support from their awaaam who were earlier against them due to jailing of Imran Khan.

 

See the pattern - Pakistan army going backfoot amid loss of trust from their people --> plan a terror attack in India --> Modi makes angry speech and army strikes back--> After 15 days, Pak calls US for de-escalation --> India be like "OK saar" and opts for ceasefire.

 

Rinse repeat.

[Real McCoy]

5 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Tbh...the govt their will bend over for them, if they even arrive today.

 

All this support to Armed forces propaganda is just a facade. 

 

Yes but not during war. The people will then revolt against them and not vote for them. the govt knows it thats why the support for armed forces

[Gollum]

Proud of our armed forces and border folks, and grateful. Government started well but then caught cold feet, maybe some bigshot mantris/babus are compromised or moles. 

 

Make no mistake, we had Pawkees by the balls when ceasefire call happened. Would our enemy(or China) have extended similar mercy if the roles were reversed? 

 

We should have negotiated for something in return, literally have so many high profile terror masterminds finding shelter there. At least Dawood, Bhatkals should have been on the table since they were Indians (also inactive/useless for ISI presently) who found refuge there as opposed to home grown Hafiz Saeed, Lakhvi, Masood. We have got nothing in return, lost more men in this conflict than the Pahalgam tragedy, lost tons of material (including possibly fighter jets), huge expenses for mobilization. Sure we eliminated a dozen jihadis but those folks are replaceable. The hits to their airbases will be repaired in no time and things will go back to usual. Have we inflicted any real damage to the Pak fauj that may deter future misadventures from their side? With their faulty and inadequate air defence system, we should have blown apart half their air assets rendering them incapable of mounting a challenge to us for the next 30 years. Or some damage to their weakass navy, our strongest card was not even shown in this conflict. IMO Haji Pir pass should have been a target because once you get that pass (like we did in 1965, but had to surrender in Tashkent agreement), 99% of terrorist infiltration to JK will stop. 

 

We held all aces but refused to press our advantage. Pawkees will regroup, fill in missing chinks and our next operation won't be nearly that easy (China too will be prepared then). Expect more terror attacks, this time even in our main cities and army bases. Pahalgam is already forgotten and BJP has enough material for next 2-3 elections. 

Edited May 11, 2025 by Gollum

[kepler37b]

 

This is straight from NY times. So us hitting peshawar caused heart failure to Rubio and Vance.  I think they were VERY much worried about their economic interests here. 

 

.. to the wrist slitters.  This is an exceptional booster for India as a country.  Modiji is the greatest gujju after Patel. 

[kepler37b]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Proud of our armed forces and border folks, and grateful. Government started well but then caught cold feet, maybe some bigshot mantris/babus are compromised or moles. 

 

Make no mistake, we had Pawkees by the balls when ceasefire call happened. Would our enemy(or China) have extended similar mercy if the roles were reversed? 

 

We should have negotiated for something in return, literally have so many high profile terror masterminds finding shelter there. At least Dawood, Bhatkals should have been on the table since they were Indians (also inactive/useless for ISI presently) who found refuge there as opposed to home grown Hafiz Saeed, Lakhvi, Masood. We have got nothing in return, lost more men in this conflict than the Pahalgam tragedy, lost tons of material (including possibly fighter jets), huge expenses for mobilization. Sure we eliminated a dozen jihadis but those folks are replaceable. The hits to their airbases will be repaired in no time and things will go back to usual. Have we inflicted any real damage to the Pak fauj that may deter future misadventures from their side? With their faulty air defence system, we should have blown apart half their air assets rendering them incapable of mounting a challenge to us for the next 30 years. Or some damage to their weakass navy, our strongest card was not even shown in this conflict. IMO Haji Pir pass should have been a target because once you get that pass (like we did in 1965), 99% of terrorist infiltration to JK will stop. 

 

We held all aces but refused to press our advantage. Pawkees will regroup, fill in missing chinks and our next operation won't be nearly that easy. Expect more terror attacks, this time even in our main cities and army bases. Pahalgam is already forgotten and BJP has enough material for next 2-3 elections. 

We can never say. May be they will disclose their co-ordinates to Indian agencies as a under-hand deal and act angry when these terrorists are vapourised.

[ravishingravi]

Only way I can explain this stupid reactions is that this is adrenaline of war. Something this country hasn't experienced for a long long time. A country of cowards that writes strong letters just attacked in the heart of enemy country.  The anxiety, hunger and the anger can be a high. When nothing happens to maintain it it can be a crash. In 2-3 days it will be okay. 

 

I would rather take the quieter implosion of Pak with 6 months - 1 year just like Syria or Libya. All it needs is a bit of push from our side which we would be happy to give. I am confident this is now imminent. People can cry as much as they want. I don't want the war. I want the enemy cut to it's size. I don't care how. Ten thousand cuts. 

Edited May 11, 2025 by ravishingravi

[kepler37b]

 

[Teengunalagaan]

7 minutes ago, MechEng said:

@ravishingravi what people are angry about is that we have failed to achieve the objective of these strikes - to set a deterrence.

 

Now Pak army knows our threshold, no matter how strong India is, just call US and Indians immediately go backfoot.

 

Also, this has ended up giving Pak army more support from their awaaam who were earlier against them due to jailing of Imran Khan.

 

See the pattern - Pakistan army going backfoot amid loss of trust from their people --> plan a terror attack in India --> Modi makes angry speech and army strikes back--> After 15 days, Pak calls US for de-escalation --> India be like "OK saar" and opts for ceasefire.

 

Rinse repeat.

The problem is you are dealing with a Military that not only owns the country, but give two F*cks about it's own citizens.

 

They will keep using these tactics, their wealth lies in Dubai, London, while they keep selling churan to awam to whose life keeps getting worst, selling fake nationalism every time you are f*cked, classic tale as old as time.

 

For us the problem lies with our civilian leadership, if this had gone for a few more days, the destruction in Pakistan would have been unfathomable, but you got be prepared to take a few hits, which our politicians don't seem to be.

[Real McCoy]

8 minutes ago, MechEng said:

@ravishingravi what people are angry about is that we have failed to achieve the objective of these strikes - to set a deterrence.

 

Now Pak army knows our threshold, no matter how strong India is, just call US and Indians immediately go backfoot.

 

Also, this has ended up giving Pak army more support from their awaaam who were earlier against them due to jailing of Imran Khan.

 

See the pattern - Pakistan army going backfoot amid loss of trust from their people --> plan a terror attack in India --> Modi makes angry speech and army strikes back--> After 15 days, Pak calls US for de-escalation --> India be like "OK saar" and opts for ceasefire.

 

Rinse repeat.

 

Looks like this is played out and part of the greater world game. And during our elections, if people are not happy with our government, pornistan jernails responds by conducting a terror attack and government with 50 inch chest showing jazba junoon with their serjical strikes. looks like the powers of both countries work hand in hand. then cesase fire is introducd as our soldier is caught and is part of the ceasefire process

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

We can never say. May be they will disclose their co-ordinates to Indian agencies as a under-hand deal and act angry when these terrorists are vapourised.

Pawkees are pathological liars man. How they misled the entire world regarding Osama bin Laden should tell everyone that. 

 

Dawood will die peacefully as an old man surrounded by his loved ones after a life of luxury and zero suffering, consequences. Though in his case I am sure, many Indian politicians, policemen and babus too don't want him back in India. 

Edited May 11, 2025 by Gollum

[Tillu]

Last night's cease fire violation was a face saving excercise by the Paaaaki junta and politicians after we turned a dozen of their Air bases into a heap of rubble.

 

Give it some time and all the narratives will change like all the previous wars.

[ravishingravi]

This was the best explanation of how we will be disintegrating Pakistan. A nuclear country cannot be beaten in head on battle. What people don't understand is that India is actively strategizing through the method of "implausible deniability". Never have I seen enemy so rattled. Silence is golden and our strength. Keep them guessing. Open up so many fronts that Pak army doesn't know what to focus on. 

 

 

[jf1gp_1]

and the bhakts have started defending their god explaining how ceasefire is good for us

[Teengunalagaan]

4 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

This was the best explanation of how we will be disintegrating Pakistan. A nuclear country cannot be beaten in head on battle. What people don't understand is that India is actively strategizing through the method of "implausible deniability". Never have I seen enemy so rattled. Silence is golden and our strength. Keep them guessing. Open up so many fronts that Pak army doesn't know what to focus on. 

 

 

All of this should be your long term strategy, no one thinks that you can wage a war and will finish the problem in one go.

 

The point is we had them by the balls, and needed to continue destroying their military infra, sure it wall cause some damage to our economy, it would have taken them years to build the infra just at the same level they are today, buying a decent amount of peace.

Edited May 11, 2025 by Teengunalagaan

[Gollum]

24 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

@Gollum your assessment is right. these people won't consider it worthy of striking back when the victim number is below 20. What they do is serjical strikes, produce reports of terrorists being killed, then sit back to watch them come back at us. They will attack us and we won't respond. They can't even say they violated the ceasefire because that would mean India has to attack them again. This is good enough for the next election which seems to be the main goal

Am giving one year tops for this posture by GOI.

 

IWT will be back.

 

Pak YT channels, entertainment outlets will be available to Indian audience. Collaboration in music, movies etc.

 

Indo-Pak cricket will resume. 

 

Medical visits for Pawkees in India, GOI will ensure their patients get special preference, legacy of Sushma Swaraj.

 

Regular chai, samosa sessions for our MEA, NSA with their counterparts.

 

More importantly, terror season will be back in JK and rest of India. Government won't need to react because this Sindoor drama has given them enough ammunition for at least next 5 years (Uri had shelf life of 3 years, Pulwama 6).

[Real McCoy]

10 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

 

This is straight from NY times. So us hitting peshawar caused heart failure to Rubio and Vance.  I think they were VERY much worried about their economic interests here. 

 

.. to the wrist slitters.  This is an exceptional booster for India as a country.  Modiji is the greatest gujju after Patel. 

 

Dude where is the source from. We made fun of pornistan minister when he said the truth is mentioned in social media. Even the interviwer grilled him. But now you are relying on social media. Where is the NY times article saying Vance was shitting himself.

[ravishingravi]

2 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said:

All of this should be your long term strategy, no one thinks that you can wage a war and will finish the problem in one go.

 

The point is we had them by the balls, and needed to continue destroying their military infra, sure it wall cause some damage to our economy, it would have taken them years to build the infra just at the same level they are today, buying a decent amount of peace.

 

Agree and disagree. I think the people involved have more facts than us. Superiority is already established. Yes in perception we were on top. But let's be clear Pak would have panicked and taken drastic action. I know the tension and anger is much to much. But in time we will understand. We are on ascendency. World is as shocked as Pakistan by our strength. We didn't get stretched at any point. This has to be done surgically not ham handedly. We might still get the same result but at considerably higher cost when the result won't matter. 

[Real McCoy]

4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Regular chai, samosa sessions for our MEA, NSA with their counterparts.