KV244 Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 Does Virat Kohli deserves farewell test series like Sachin as he is one of the best batsman of India?
KV244 Posted September 13, 2025 Author Posted September 13, 2025 11 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: No Why?
Ultimate_Game Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 49 minutes ago, KV244 said: Why? For one Kohli is not in the same category as Tendulkar and ended up with an average in mid 40s which isn't great. Second, he has sucked for more than 5 years in Tests averaging around 30 and has been the worst performing no. 4 across all Test teams over that period. 5+ years is enough leeway and farewell. sage, bowl_out, Master_better and 5 others 8
lemsip Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 Obviously not. In any case before officially retiring he had been opting out of series and games quite often based on his personal preferences. Fair enough but that is already a farewell and the TM indulged him for too long by accomodating the preferences of a non performing player. In the wider scheme of things in Indian test cricket, he will go down more for the impact he had as a captain rather than as a legendary batsman. He peaked at a high level around 2017/2018 but overall he doesn't stand comparison with Sachin, SMG etc purely as a era defining batsman. adkrish22290 and diga 2
KV244 Posted September 13, 2025 Author Posted September 13, 2025 5 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: For one Kohli is not in the same category as Tendulkar and ended up with an average in mid 40s which isn't great. Second, he has sucked for more than 5 years in Tests averaging around 30 and has been the worst performing no. 4 across all Test teams over that period. 5+ years is enough leeway and farewell. But Root and Williamson played on flat pitches compared to Kohli that's why they performed better and Kohli batted on difficult wickets that's why his performance becomes bad. adkrish22290 and sage 2
Popular Post BacktoCricaddict Posted September 13, 2025 Popular Post Posted September 13, 2025 No one deserves a farewell test series. It's an antiquated and useless concept. They played and were handsomely compensated for doing their job. When they retire, the players (friends) can throw a party and have speeches. And move on. adkrish22290, diga, Manucrick and 9 others 1 11
zen Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 If you want a farewell series, you should aim to retire on a high, not when there is a feeling of you being accommodated. Ideally, the concept of farewell series is outdated considering the talent pool available, therefore, players have to time it when they are on their way down but still find a place in the team to go out on a relative high. adkrish22290, Ultimate_Game and tapandrun 3
jf1gp_1 Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 Yes but before he announced retirement. Not now. adkrish22290 1
neel roy Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 2 hours ago, KV244 said: But Root and Williamson played on flat pitches compared to Kohli that's why they performed better and Kohli batted on difficult wickets that's why his performance becomes bad. That was a team call and call was made by Kohli and Ravi Shastri. In 2021 Feb when England came to India, India actually prepared a flat pitch or typical subcontinental pitch in the first test. England as usual won the toss and elected to bat. Root scored a double hundred and England scored 500 plus. India fresh from Gabba win played like millionaires in first innings and lost the test as ball started to spin in second innings. While Ollie Pope wad batting in Englands second innings Kohli walked up to him and said.. its over.. whatever runs you wanna make, make it here.. next all tests you wont make any as rank turners coming and rest is history.. india started making rank turners.. beat all and sundry till it came to a screeching halt against NZ.. adkrish22290 1
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 No. When your overstay your welcome, you don't deserve such farewell. He kept failing and failing in last 5 years with similar patterns of dismissals. There was zero effort to rectify mistakes by playing FC or county cricket. He was lucky he played for those 5 years, could easily have his career cut short in 2024 itself. Top that with reports of not traveling with the team, staying in different hotels etc. As big a superstar he is, in a team sport that's unacceptable. Credit to Agarkar and Gambhir for making the bold call. sorak and adkrish22290 1 1
adkrish22290 Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 (edited) Virat deserves a farewell game, but only in ODI, which is his best format. In Tests, he struggled for a long time and was completely out of touch, did not bother to fix his glaring technical issues, but still remained in the team because of superstar status and PR. He was never a great Test player and just had a good patch in the mid-late 2010s. If anyone deserved a farewell Test, it is Ashwin and Pujara, they contributed a lot to Indian Test cricket and their value is more than that of Virat's. Edited September 13, 2025 by adkrish22290
Trichromatic Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 Kohli would have scored 500+ in the England series. Master_better, Manucrick, putrevus and 2 others 4 1
Gollum Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 Even Kohli stopped caring about test cricket post pandemic. Check the number of tests he missed for unknown reasons.
Gollum Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli would have scored 500+ in the England series. Nah, based on how he did against NZ and Aus, no reason to think he was better than Sai or Karun. Guy stopped working on his flaws, kept getting out the same way, even on these flat pitches, he wouldn't have had the hunger to go big. Ultimate_Game 1
Gollum Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 (edited) Once you mentally check out, can't perform no matter how much the odds are stacked in your favor. After losing captaincy, he was playing test cricket as if he was doing a favor to the team, would drop out of the squads at short notice for no reason whatsoever, missed 15 odd tests just in the last 5 years, and not due to injury. Anyhow no need of farewell drama in a team sport. Edited September 13, 2025 by Gollum tapandrun 1
neel roy Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 15 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli would have scored 500+ in the England series. Kohli couldnt score zilch in indian pitches against nz where Sarfraz khan, rishabh pant all scored runs. He was playing the wrong line to aijaz and santner time and again. He would have been nicked out in England as well. Ultimate_Game 1
putrevus Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 20 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli would have scored 500+ in the England series. He sure would have scored more than 500 runs. Ultimate_Game 1
bowl_out Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 3 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli would have scored 500+ in the England series. Yes, if you count the runs that opponent batsmen would have scored after his drop catches in the slips. Ultimate_Game and Tillu 2
vvvslaxman Posted September 13, 2025 Posted September 13, 2025 THis discussion is moot now. jf1gp_1 1
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