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[ IPL Statistics ] - MSD vs Virat

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MSD is a useless T20 player as per few wheelchair analysts here in ICF.

And most of us here agree that kohli is one of the best limited overs batsmen.

 

MSD is such a worst T20 player whose average and strike rate in IPL is only slightly above virat kohli :p:

 

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9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Kohli was just an average T20 player for the most part of the IPL. It was from 2015 IPL onward that he started to come to terms with T20s. He has been a great ODI player but was an average T20 player till 2014.

but wheelchair guys will say that dhoni is a poor T20 playes :sad:

 

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4 minutes ago, velu said:

you have to considet the batting psotions :rotfl:

 

Then average and strike rate become less relevant as down the order you are more likely to stay N.O and also will be slogging at everything. Not the case when your role is to build the innings.

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13 minutes ago, sourab10forever said:

Then average and strike rate become less relevant as down the order you are more likely to stay N.O and also will be slogging at everything. Not the case when your role is to build the innings.

 

batsmen down the order have less average than the guys batting up the order .. very few exceptions 

batsmen down the order will slong and gets out 

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How many 50s has Dhoni scored in T20s for India? How many matches has he won for us in World T20? Oh wait, I think I know the answer. A big fat ZERO.

Insult to compare him with a bonafide great like Virat. Dhoni is the most over rated sportsman in history, FACT.

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I know it's not going to make any difference to both sets of idiots (dhoni haters and dhoni chamchas), but here goes ...

 

Virat started his career when IPL started. He was a decent T20 player (both IPL and international) for many years. He has become a fantastic T20 player only in the last few seasons (both IPL and international). He is at his peak now, and has a chance to improve his numbers further in the coming years.

 

Dhoni was already established as a player when IPL started. He always has been very good at IPL and average at internationals. His IPL performances have deteriorated in the last couple of seasons. He actually played better internationally in 2016 than before (not many runs but very good SR). 

 

IPL .... Dhoni is ahead of Virat across all seasons so far, but Virat will surpass him in the coming few years.

 

Internationals ... Virat definitely better than Dhoni.

 

 

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How many 50s has Dhoni scored in T20s for India? How many matches has he won for us in World T20? Oh wait, I think I know the answer. A big fat ZERO.

Insult to compare him with a bonafide great like Virat. Dhoni is the most over rated sportsman in history, FACT.

 

IPL > International T20

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MSD was a good T20 player and a great odi player but IMO that time's gone. He shouldn't continue in T20Is given there are other alternatives and the next T20 WC is in 2018.

 

In odis selectors may need to take a call post CT to see whether he can last till 2019 WC. At the very least the selectors have to start working on grooming a replacement. Selectors have already wasted a lot of time by not giving someone like Pant a few games in the recent England series and should start doing so post CT.

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2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

MSD was a good T20 player and a great odi player but IMO that time's gone. He shouldn't continue in T20Is given there are other alternatives and the next T20 WC is in 2018.

 

In odis selectors may need to take a call post CT to see whether he can last till 2019 WC. At the very least the selectors have to start working on grooming a replacement. Selectors have already wasted a lot of time by not giving someone like Pant a few games in the recent England series and should start doing so post CT.

Dhoni was never good in international t20s.

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2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Dhoni was never good in international t20s.

He was a decent enough batsman and overall as a wkt keeper and captain to boot he was pretty good. And it wasn't as if there were great options available either with other options being Naman Ojha and Saha. Now we have somebody like Pant and captaincy has moved on to Kohli so it's the right time to move on. Actually could have moved on earlier had selectors been a bit more foresighted. But what do you expect from selectors who persisted with players like Yuvraj, Rahane and Rayudu in shorter formats despite knowing that either they were done or not good enough :facepalm: 

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24 minutes ago, Number said:

Kohli has started caring for IPL since 2015, just when Dhoni stopped giving a * about it.

That's funny because I heard that he doesn't care for T20Is or tests and only IPL from his fans to defend his lackluster t20I performances and lack of interest in tests..wonder which one is it? :giggle:

 

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You can defend him all you want but he was always mediocre t20i player

 

MSD has become an embarrassment now Reflexes gone, bat speed gone... All he does is, attempted hoicks go for a single and he aggressively runs for a single. After 3 or 4 singles, he fails miserably to pick up a straight delivery and gets LBW.

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Kohli in any position and situation is better than Dhoni. Dhoni in the past was good but no way as good as Kohli is now. But kohli of past is way better than Dhoni now. No form for Dhoni now.

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1 hour ago, velu said:

nah .. he does anchoring role most of the times .. need to flex his mussle only when the  things bad after 19th over 

Not an excuse...rohit has been negating the new ball beautifully in the first 6 overs...so anchoring excuse doesn't cut it...the way rohit negates the new ball even tailenders can come in start smacking it from ball 1 ....so pathetic excuse.

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3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Not an excuse...rohit has been negating the new ball beautifully in the first 6 overs...so anchoring excuse doesn't cut it...the way rohit negates the new ball even tailenders can come in start smacking it from ball 1 ....so pathetic excuse.

Lol are yaar, Rohit barely lasts enough to negate new ball. He's usually gone in 2 balls back to eating Maggi

 

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2 hours ago, maniac said:

Not an excuse...rohit has been negating the new ball beautifully in the first 6 overs...so anchoring excuse doesn't cut it...the way rohit negates the new ball even tailenders can come in start smacking it from ball 1 ....so pathetic excuse.

:hysterical::rofl: Good one maniac!!! Good one!:rotfl: :cantstop: 

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