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How tough was keeping yesterday!

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No one is mentioning about the keeping. Fast bowlers were all over the place. Ball swinging like crazy after passing the batsman.  There were some amazing takes from Pant and some horrendous deliveries from bowlers as well which went for byes.  We saw how Bairstaw struggled when ball swerved and got injured in the last test.   

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Buttler gave 3-4 byes as well.

 

Manju was ranting about keeping not being good enough. Not sure what to make of fast bowlers but there might be some improvement required while keeping to lefties, maybe Pant seems weaker on his wrong side (leg side of lefties). Or it could be that he was covering outside off more than usual. Early days & tough conditions, not much to make of i guess.

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1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Pant is weaker on his right side, needs to improve but time hai.

no, dont think he is weak there.  it is just that he was covering for off side more as bowlers were spraying a lot there. he naturally is right hander.

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3 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

There is a lot a lot of work to be done with him.

This is Bs, as tatti as your user name, the guy is already second best WK in india after saha, extremely agaile with proper technique for wkeeping, go watch  some of those dives yesterday I guess you was sleeping.

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16 minutes ago, speedheat said:

This is Bs, as tatti as your user name, the guy is already second best WK in india after saha, extremely agaile with proper technique for wkeeping, go watch  some of those dives yesterday I guess you was sleeping.

I don't think the Scotsman meant it as a rebuke. Pant obviously has many assets like reflexes, agility and big balls...however there is a lot of scope to improve. We can't say he is 2nd best until he keeps to Ashwin-Jaddu on day 5 Indian track. He will be better than DK/Pappu no doubt but the standards must be higher. There are some lofty expectations from this lad, so obviously we want him to extract the best out of his talent. He is young and looks like an enthusiastic chap....he should get better with time. He is diving unlike Dhoni, so the intent is there...he isn't wincing in pain while collecting 140+kph balls, so the courage is there. But his technique needs improvement, especially his footwork. He won't have the same hand-eye co-ordination his whole career, once that declines his flaws will come to the forefront. But if he can work on his shortcomings we may never have to witness that. Also prone to grabbing in some takes instead of allowing the ball to settle in the gloves, scope for improvement yet again.

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Watch this video ..

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/1157887.html

 

WK'ing was really tough yesterday. Ball swung late after going well beyond the batsman. Also, some really bad wide balls down the leg side from the bowlers.

 

Pant to a large extent did quite well.

 

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28 minutes ago, speedheat said:

This is Bs, as tatti as your user name, the guy is already second best WK in india after saha, extremely agaile with proper technique for wkeeping, go watch  some of those dives yesterday I guess you was sleeping.

 Diving is NOT wicket-keeping , 

No proper wicketkeeper employs what is known as long barrier in coaching for a ball that has not bounced .

Care to give us your wicket-keeping credentials that makes you know he employs " proper technique?

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7 minutes ago, philcric said:

Watch this video ..

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/1157887.html

 

WK'ing was really tough yesterday. Ball swung late after going well beyond the batsman. Also, some really bad wide balls from the bowlers.

 

Pant to a large extent did quite well.

 

Shami bye was the culprit.:p:

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Pant's keeping looks like a work-in-progress to me.  And that is natural as he is only 20.

 

He is brilliant at diving and collecting.  But his foot-work is not always good and neither is his anticipation ... and he has to dive for some balls because of this.

 

p.s -- Keeping to seamers was very tough yesterday ... because of the rather frequent late swing after passing the stumps.

 

 

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4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

 Fast bowlers were all over the place.

 

They bowled in good areas most of the time.  

 

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Ball swinging like crazy after passing the batsman. 

 

This is what caused difficulty for keepers ... and not bowlers' accuracy.

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5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

They bowled in good areas most of the time.  

 

 

This is what caused difficulty for keepers ... and not bowlers' accuracy.

there was accuracy issue too at times. watch the video. bowling so many on leg side is inaccuracy issue.  Most byes are because of that inaccuracy.  check the video in the above cricinfo link.

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39 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

Diving is NOT wicket-keeping

Again lol..An agile dive to save a bye is one of the hallmark of quality wkeeper, and pant passed it with flying colors

44 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

are to give us your wicket-keeping credentials that makes you know he employs " proper technique?

He as a rookie on debut took 5 catches in some alien conditions away from home that itself employs credentials of his proper technique no need to explain it in detail and that also trumps the fact that he had looooot of work to do as you initially spouting.

He has age and time on his hand in case of flaws he will learn, but saying he has looooooot of work to do is laughable.. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

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24 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

there was accuracy issue too at times. watch the video. bowling so many on leg side is inaccuracy issue.  Most byes are because of that inaccuracy.  check the video in the above cricinfo link.

 

I watched 90% of the deliveries by our fast bowlers yesterday.  Bad balls were rare barring Pandya.   

 

Occasional loose deliveries are bowled by every bowler ...  and they get highlighted in videos if byes are conceded.

 

Just check the pitch map and ER of our 3 main pacers.

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2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

I watched 90% of the deliveries by our fast bowlers yesterday.  Bad balls were rare barring Pandya.   

 

Occasional loose deliveries are bowled by every bowler ...  and they get highlighted in videos if byes are conceded.

 

Just check the pitch map and ER of our 3 main pacers.

i am only talking about those horrendous leg side byes.  So many byes for 4s on leg side is bowlers fault, not keeper's.

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