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Steven Smith is a FAR greater clutch player than fake self image obsessed Kohli can ever dream of being

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19 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

Smith is definitely a far technically superior than Virat , To dismiss him the bowler needs mighty luck and 200% efforts  including fielders . 

kohli is much better batsmen than smith but fails in important games and is not a good captain. smith's technique is vulnerable and awkward to watch.

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1 minute ago, haiwan said:

kohli is much better batsmen than smith but fails in important games and is not a good captain. smith's technique is vulnerable and awkward to watch.

Looking vulnerable and being vulnerable is not the same. Kohli is a vulnerable bunny in BIG games and clutch situations - where Smith is KING

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3 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Looking vulnerable and being vulnerable is not the same. Kohli is a vulnerable bunny in BIG games and clutch situations - where Smith is KING

that's what i said. Kohli fails in important big games but kohli's technique is still better than smith.

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1 minute ago, haiwan said:

that's what i said. Kohli fails in important big games but kohli's technique is still better than smith.

With his technique Smith averaged almost 8 points more than Kohli in test match cricket - runs galore all over the world. His technique works for him. Simple as. 

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1 minute ago, rangeelaraja said:

With his technique Smith averaged almost 8 points more than Kohli in test match cricket - runs galore all over the world. His technique works for him. Simple as. 

he was found out in this world cup. two times LBW trying to shuffle.

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35 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

I seriously wish Kohli gets a big hot rod  shoved up his back side.

Woah that would hurt. Is this 50 shades of Kohli?

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Any batsman can get out by number of ways but he is hard one to bowl and field . The same way the Kohli was out twice to short pitch bowling it does not mean that he is bad player of short ball.

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The best Clutch player from India was out injured in the 2nd game, if anyone was expecting Kohli to be a clutch player after his past travesties is making a fool of himself. Chootiya was again found laughing around in the dressing room when we were 92/6 doing a bit of drama with Bewda in his wet panties. In the history of Indian cricket the best batman in our team was never the best player to captain the side, be it Gavaskar, Tendulkar, or Kohli.

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20 minutes ago, haiwan said:

that's what i said. Kohli fails in important big games but kohli's technique is still better than smith.

Kohli will play better if relieved of captaincy burden

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8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Kohli's stats as a batsman is far better as captain than as an ordinary player.

That's because he blossomed more in the last few years reaching his peak potential and that coincided with his captaincy term. In this case, correlation does not imply causation. 

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the issue is Kohli does not want to encourage any new youngsters bcos he does not want to lose his super stardom. he is a egoistic who would not be where he is today if not for MSD backing him and giving him so many chances. Ganguly and then Later Dhoni prospered by backing and grooming youngsters. 

kohli does not want to pay it forward. in india we have so much under 21 talent like shubam gill etc, but still kohli selects old washed up mercenaries and ugly ducklings like rayudu, jadav etc shankar bcos he does not want another superstar in team. 

for india cricket to prosper , the kohli monopoly has to end

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9 hours ago, vijay50 said:

Kohli will play better if relieved of captaincy burden

 

kohli is such a self obsessed, narcicisstic, ego megalo maniac that he will throw a major hissy fit if fired from captaincy and go into depression. he might even slit his wrists.

 

this is what the pussies at bcci are afraid of and thats why they are keeping the mental ego maniac as captain

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3 hours ago, sarcastic said:

That's because he blossomed more in the last few years reaching his peak potential and that coincided with his captaincy term. In this case, correlation does not imply causation. 

 

But it shows that there is no evidence to suggest that quitting captaincy would improve his batting ( which was the point I was countering )

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13 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

Looking vulnerable and being vulnerable is not the same. Kohli is a vulnerable bunny in BIG games and clutch situations - where Smith is KING

He is vulnerable & weaknesses have been exploited, it's just that he has more discipline & patience than Kohli - hence his awesome record in tests!

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14 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

He got Kumble booted out ( can an Australian or English captain get their coach booted in this manner ? ) because Bewda's style was preferred over Kumble's discipline and method.

this is the worst legacy that Kohli will carry, for ever he will fail to be considered alongside Sachin and Dravid in terms of integrity because of this. 

 

Kumble would have planned a CT 2017 and WC win for him if he had swallowed his pride and did the hard yards. Great waste of god given right to rule absolutely, but then its apparent absolute power corrupts absolutely. 

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7 minutes ago, beetle said:

I feel we have already seen the best of kohli.

Some get distracted by fame etc.

This guy has got distracted by his brand.

 

incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him. With Pant shaping up and Puj/Rohit for bulwark in their formats and Indian pace and spin dominance - India will absolutely dominate the world over but then they are bilaterals and next WC even if won, has already been done better in 2011 by the great Sachin, stoic Dhoni and heroic Yuvi cannot be outdone not that trio. Kohli missed his unique chance to etch his dominance forever by winning in England. 

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2 minutes ago, Vilander said:

incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him.

You wanna bet we've already seen the best of him? And no not every batter has the same peak, that's just not true!

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and the worst thing which he did was marrying that bollywood fake women sharma with lip surgery. Now be ready for more brand building and maintenance and pakistani/foreign appeasement.

I Wish kohli would have seriously considered the marriage proposal of that british women cricketer even though she said that in excitement.

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14 hours ago, Sean Bradley said:

The best Clutch player from India was out injured in the 2nd game, if anyone was expecting Kohli to be a clutch player after his past travesties is making a fool of himself. Chootiya was again found laughing around in the dressing room when we were 92/6 doing a bit of drama with Bewda in his wet panties. In the history of Indian cricket the best batman in our team was never the best player to captain the side, be it Gavaskar, Tendulkar, or Kohli.

Dhawan is no clutch player. His most runs come in league phase not knockouts.

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21 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Using everyone's logic and short term memory Jadeja > Kohli.

I'm sure Jadeja would average 40+ if given consistent run at #4/5. He already showed he's a much better pressure player than Rat could ever be. I'd take 40+ overall and pressure player over 60 overall (in shtupid bi-laterals that no one gives a fck about) and 1 or 2 runs in all important knockouts.

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I think the best clutch players India ever had were Kris Srikanth, Gautam Gambhir, MS Dhoni (before he went downhill), Suresh Raina, Sachin Tendulkar.

 

Rest are all imposters and not even worth talking about. They can all go to hell.

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21 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Kohli's stats as a batsman is far better as captain than as an ordinary player.

So what. He will not win you a single ICC trophy. As a captain still he did not score in knockouts, so doesn’t matter if he is captain or not.

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2 hours ago, vijay50 said:

So what. He will not win you a single ICC trophy. As a captain still he did not score in knockouts, so doesn’t matter if he is captain or not.

 

I don't disagree with that point.

 

I disagreed with the point that Kohli will score more if he gives up captaincy.

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12 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

But it shows that there is no evidence to suggest that quitting captaincy would improve his batting ( which was the point I was countering )

Yes,  Kohli can't bat better than what he I s doing now. He had more pressure handling Anderson over after over, in a country where he knew had done zilch before this tour o f England. That was. playing more on his mind when eh toured, than the failures of not scoring. in a knock. out. game. I know World Cup is a big stage,  but doesn't mean Kohli lost his batting MOJO because of captaincy. I think. overall, Kohli will match what he is doing now days, which is piling runs, he still scored lot of runs in this world cup even though did not click in semis. 

 

What can make a difference is just having that mental peace going into a knock out game without captaincy pressure. That is only valid for knock out games. Overall, he was scoring runs, and will continue to score runs as is. 

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10 hours ago, haiwan said:

and the worst thing which he did was marrying that bollywood fake women sharma with lip surgery. Now be ready for more brand building and maintenance and pakistani/foreign appeasement.

I Wish kohli would have seriously considered the marriage proposal of that british women cricketer even though she said that in excitement.

duck face has had a negative vegan actor influence it appears and angers the entitled fans :laugh: . but hey he likes her and thats his life. 

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

do you have some eyesight problem?  go read the comment again.

So you can't form proper sentences & I have an eyesight problem :two_thumbs_up:

 

13 hours ago, Vilander said:

incorrect, he will become a monster in the coming two seasons great batsmen become beasts between 32 - 35, his best years are ahead of him

 

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3 hours ago, R!TTER said:

So you can't form proper sentences & I have an eyesight problem :two_thumbs_up:

 

 

he is not ' not every batter'. He is a legit great already, there is a difference. I am certain he will have his best years ahead of him as he breaks many records in cricket, similar to what Sacin had. 

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Idiotic thread by a wrist slitter. Kohli already has 

58 not out in semifinals  champions trophy 2013

40+ highest scorer champions trophy final 2013 

96 not out in semifinals champions trophy 2017.

Century against Pakistan in 2015 WC.  Always a high pressure game in WC. 

 

Stop behaving like nuts. 

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Idiotic thread by a wrist slitter. Kohli already has 
58 not out in semifinals  champions trophy 2013
40+ highest scorer champions trophy final 2013 
96 not out in semifinals champions trophy 2017.
Century against Pakistan in 2015 WC.  Always a high pressure game in WC. 
 
Stop behaving like nuts. 
Do you know what the *ing world cup is?

Its world cup or bust. Why does he suck every world cup knockout?

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4 hours ago, jonas10 said:

Do you know what the *ing world cup is?

Its world cup or bust. Why does he suck every world cup knockout?

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Yes I know  that and in 2016 he performed in two consecutive knockout games against Australia and windies. Do you remember that or now you will filter it and say oh I was talking about only Odi WC. 

Topic is about being clutch and that involves every knockout or do or die situation. 

 

Last but not the least Kohli hasn't embarrassed his country by using sandpaper like that cheat. 

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Yes I know  that and in 2016 he performed in two consecutive knockout games against Australia and windies. Do you remember that or now you will filter it and say oh I was talking about only Odi WC. 
Topic is about being clutch and that involves every knockout or do or die situation. 
 
Last but not the least Kohli hasn't embarrassed his country by using sandpaper like that cheat. 
Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about world cup... The actual world cup.

Look he's failed miserably in world cup knockout games. Those are the facts.

Entire country doesn't shut down to watch 4th in a 7 match bilateral odi series with sri Lanka.

He's hit big scores but not when they mattered the most... The world cup!

New Zealand even said they watched the champion trophy game with Pakistan to build the same attack plan to destroy him. He's helpless to left hand pace in pressure matches.

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17 minutes ago, jonas10 said:

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about world cup... The actual world cup.

Look he's failed miserably in world cup knockout games. Those are the facts.

Entire country doesn't shut down to watch 4th in a 7 match bilateral odi series with sri Lanka.

He's hit big scores but not when they mattered the most... The world cup!

New Zealand even said they watched the champion trophy game with Pakistan to build the same attack plan to destroy him. He's helpless to left hand pace in pressure matches.

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It is now just becoming laughable. Look at the filter. 'Left hand in pressure match'. So Virat becomes good against left hand in league matches.  

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23 minutes ago, jonas10 said:

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about world cup... The actual world cup.

Look he's failed miserably in world cup knockout games. Those are the facts.

Entire country doesn't shut down to watch 4th in a 7 match bilateral odi series with sri Lanka.

He's hit big scores but not when they mattered the most... The world cup!

New Zealand even said they watched the champion trophy game with Pakistan to build the same attack plan to destroy him. He's helpless to left hand pace in pressure matches.

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There is nothing called actual World Cup. Entire country  stops for T20 WC too. And Kohli has two MoS  in it. Two great knockout performances or may be even more. 

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There is nothing called actual World Cup. Entire country  stops for T20 WC too. And Kohli has two MoS  in it. Two great knockout performances or may be even more. 
You can twist your logic any way you want but the world cup of tendulkar Richards khan warne etc is the world cup.

As long as you acknowledge he's been awful in 3 straight semi finals.

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