if we had to pick one spinner between Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal

[fineleg]

For ODIs (and add T20s if you want that too, but mainly for ODIs):

If for whatever reason team management has to pick ONLY one legspinner - then who is higher in the pecking order and why? Is it due to better bowling abilities? (or fielding? YC better there?)

Or do you play both wrist-spinners in 11 ahead of finger spinners (Axar Patel, Jaddu, Washington Sundar...)

Edited December 13, 2017 by fineleg

[sandeep]

For LOI cricket, as of now, Chahal.  He's more experienced and has proven himself to be more effective in restricting scoring as well as taking wickets.   @Pollack 

[Gollum]

Chahal as of today but methinks Kuldeep has a higher ceiling. 

[fineleg]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Chahal as of today but methinks Kuldeep has a higher ceiling. 

Why Chahal today? Any reason you prefer?

[maniac]

Chahal in LOIs And Kuldeep in tests

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, fineleg said:

Why Chahal today? Any reason you prefer?

Kuldeep lacks the consistency, bowls a freebie per over. 

[SUMO]

chahal because he is more reliable in the crunch moments of the game.
both are equally good wicket takers but chahal gives more control to stop the runs.
his 2 overs for 8 runs in a 8 over game recently against NZ was marvellous.

[Ellipsism]

Kuldeep has an infinitely higher ceiling. Can potentially end his career as one of the modern greats of the game.

Edited December 14, 2017 by Ellipsism

[mancalledsting]

Chahal

[SK_IH]

its apparent he is the 1st choice spinner for this team management and deservingly so,he shows his experience every now n then ,kuldeep is a back up

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Ellipsism said:

Kuldeep has an infinitely higher ceiling. Can potentially end his career as one of the greats of the game.

Why do you say that? Inconsistent bowlers will never do well.

[beetle]

I think chahal is the smarter one.

[Cricketics]

Kuldeep has a lot of weapons but he is very inconsistent with it. Chahal even though limited weapons is a smarter bowler and has more control.

 

In cricket just like in batting, you can have all the shots but person with the better temperament and shot selection usually prevails over one who looks has more shots. Similarly at this time, Chahal is better untill Kuldeep, who has a lot more weapons, finds control and consistency in his bowling.

 

[maniac]

9 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Kuldeep has a lot of weapons but he is very inconsistent with it. Chahal even though limited weapons is a smarter bowler and has more control.

 

In cricket just like in batting, you can have all the shots but person with the better temperament and shot selection usually prevails over one who looks has more shots. Similarly at this time, Chahal is better untill Kuldeep, who has a lot more weapons, finds control and consistency in his bowling.

 

Exactly that’s why Chahal for LOIs is a no brainer 

 

but you you need those variations and turn the ball so Kuldeep over Chahal for tests because Chahal is not a huge turner of the ball or neither is he the Kumble type flipper type leg spinner .

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

34 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Kuldeep has a lot of weapons but he is very inconsistent with it. Chahal even though limited weapons is a smarter bowler and has more control.

 

In cricket just like in batting, you can have all the shots but person with the better temperament and shot selection usually prevails over one who looks has more shots. Similarly at this time, Chahal is better untill Kuldeep, who has a lot more weapons, finds control and consistency in his bowling.

 

dont think Kuldeep has any more weapons than Chahal. Both bowl leg breaks though both are not big turners and both have googlies. Just that kuldeep does it with his left hand.

[rkt.india]

24 minutes ago, maniac said:

Exactly that’s why Chahal for LOIs is a no brainer 

 

but you you need those variations and turn the ball so Kuldeep over Chahal for tests because Chahal is not a huge turner of the ball or neither is he the Kumble type flipper type leg spinner .

 

 

 

Neither is Kuldeep a big turner of the ball nor he has anymore variations than what Chahal has.  It is just a perception just because he is a left arm leg spinner.

Edited December 14, 2017 by rkt.india

[maniac]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Neither is Kuldeep a big turner of the ball.

He has a flipper and googly from what I have seen...he can produce wicket taking deliveries...not saying Chahal is a 100% defensive bowler but Chahal relies

more on batsman’s mistakes than the magical

delivery....Chahal in Odis is what Jadeja is in tests.

[Ellipsism]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Why do you say that? Inconsistent bowlers will never do well.

Wrist spinners take longer to develop and find their length. Kuldeep imparts a lot of revs and gets good drift and turn. The guile will develop with match experience. 

[rkt.india]

45 minutes ago, Ellipsism said:

Wrist spinners take longer to develop and find their length. Kuldeep imparts a lot of revs and gets good drift and turn. The guile will develop with match experience. 

yes and that is why he  needs to play more FC matches right now to polish his skills.  

[rkt.india]

53 minutes ago, maniac said:

He has a flipper and googly from what I have seen...he can produce wicket taking deliveries...not saying Chahal is a 100% defensive bowler but Chahal relies

more on batsman’s mistakes than the magical

delivery....Chahal in Odis is what Jadeja is in tests.

Not really, Chahal operates according to the pitch.  he adjusts well and he too has googly and flipper.