Virat Kohli Captaincy thread

[Lord]

eh? infact he had all the luck.Got an easy team in SF and finals,won the toss in finals,

got dropped batting

 

 

[Sandeep99]

Of course, winning the toss in the final was the strategy but fielding both Ashwin and Jadeja was unlucky.

[WC2011INDIA]

the fact he has scored so many runs and playing for India is lucky enough. Not many get a chance so early as he did. Just look at Pant and others...

[Sandeep99]

9 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said:

the fact he has scored so many runs and playing for India is lucky enough. Not many get a chance so early as he did. Just look at Pant and others...

Kohli should think what if he was not blooded in early at 20.. now he's stopping guys like Pant and Iyer to come in. Hypocrite. He wants his old buddy Yuvraj in the team. Once a legend, he's unfortunately no more the same player.

[Cricketics]

Not the best of captaincy in this tournament from Kohli but surely a better captain than Dhoni of the recent history at this time for team India who quit because we used to suck under him for a while. No one else got the captiancy because no one was deemed good enough to keep their place in the team like Kohli who hardly gets injured and is available for every game. 

 

 

We have lost shambolically in the past too like losing to Pak and getting knocked out in 2008,CT and performing poorly in 2010 CT and not to forget all the t20 world cup tournaments post 2007. Yes all t20 tournaments, there are plenty of them where we did not even made to the finals.

 

 

That said, captaincy is overrated even though important. If Kohli had won the CT, I won't even give him that much credit as it is still the players who win you or lose you the game by playing as a team.

 

 

Luck comes with time. This is Kohli's first ICC tournament as captain and its still to early to rate him.

 

He is still our best captain we can have.

 

 

 

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

6 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

From his uninspiring selections to his visibly repriminding team mates,he his not cut out for captaincy..

 

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deserves a chance to learn and correct himself. If he does not then surely he is not cut for it. we will make more out of his batting

[vvvslaxman]

He has passion. But doesn't think quickly on feet. Fact that they went with a plan of attacking leg stump of Fakhar zaman and he agreed to it means he is devoid of original ideas. He depends on others for ideas. He just tries to be energetic on the field. His brain froze just like how his brain freezes when he captains RCB. I gave the benefit of doubt that he was not as passionate with RCB. Now that it is conclusive that he depends on others. At the end of the day you have to come up with your own ideas. Compared to this "gut instincts" of Dhoni looks better lol . He reminded me of Sachin Tendulkar as captain. 

[cricketfan28]

he will improve.

[bleaf27]

Would Kohli show half the guts that Sarfaraz has shown by sitting Ahemad Shehzad , sending back Umar Akmal and play novices like Rumman and then sit them down ?     

Does Kohli have the guts to send back Yuvraj for his fitness or fielding ?

Does he have the guts to ask Jadeja or Ashwin because they aren't bringing their A game ?

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, bleaf27 said:

Would Kohli show half the guts that Sarfaraz has shown by sitting Ahemad Shehzad , sending back Umar Akmal and play novices like Rumman and then sit them down ?     

Does Kohli have the guts to send back Yuvraj for his fitness or fielding ?

Does he have the guts to ask Jadeja or Ashwin because they aren't bringing their A game ?

Problem is they are not super stars. Yuvraj is the senior most. This is what the problem is. Despite all his bravado , he try to be nice to anyone.

He has to dramatically change his personality as a captain. Being hot headed do nobody any favors. 

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

He has passion. But doesn't think quickly on feet. Fact that they went with a plan of attacking leg stump of Fakhar zaman and he agreed to it means he is devoid of original ideas. He depends on others for ideas. He just tries to be energetic on the field. His brain froze just like how his brain freezes when he captains RCB. I gave the benefit of doubt that he was not as passionate with RCB. Now that it is conclusive that he depends on others. At the end of the day you have to come up with your own ideas. Compared to this "gut instincts" of Dhoni looks better lol . He reminded me of Sachin Tendulkar as captain. 

being defensive is the first step Indian team takes against any batsman they think is dangerous instead of trying to take his wickets. On last tour to Australia, they did it to Warner by bowling round the stumps from ball one and he made merry.

[bleaf27]

8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Problem is they are not super stars. Yuvraj is the senior most. This is what the problem is. Despite all his bravado , he try to be nice to anyone.

He has to dramatically change his personality as a captain. Being hot headed do nobody any favors. 

This isn't a teenager birthday party that you are trying to be nice to everyone .

As a captain , being nice to everyone or being friends with everyone is not your job ,  your job is to select the best 11.  

Does Kohli have that level of maturity ? No ,  He is fighting with Kumble , one of the smartest cricketing brains.  He is sitting out passionate players like Umesh and Shami.    He's having Yuvi in the team -  There is no status quo for seniority - Dravid / Ganguly / Sehwag were sat out by Dhoni

[mishra]

Had a good feeling about him when he took over test Captaincy. Now I get feeling that He is still to be tested properly in places where MSD failed. Thats about it.

[bleaf27]

The Indian selectors made the same Mistake with Kohli as they did with Tendulkar......made the most skilled guy your captain.  Tendulkar is a legend but he is not the best leader . Similarly with Kohli,  he's one of the best batsman and the most skilled guy in the team but not a leadership material.   This is why you choose leadership qualities over skill set.  Sarfaraz is a mediocre player -  but he's able to lead that unorganized team 

[Tendu_10]

kohli is complete favouritism guy. keeps picking his friend Yuvi even though he is finished.

 

MSD also is done.

 

also kohli starts panicking under pressure n often cracks.

 

he is rubbish captain nowhere near MS at his peak.

 

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[sergio04]

need fresh player

[DDfan2017]

I agree with this luck factor... That dada or Kohli lacks, and Dhoni had in plenty.

In CT 2000, India, after great performance throughout the tournament, shouldn't have lost to the kiwis, or an injured Chris Cairns to b more precise. That was just poor luck of dada that denied him the victory.

Same seen with Kohli this year.

Whereas Dhoni in CT 2013, didn't deserve to win the final. When England was on the verge of a victory, Ishant, the worst bowler of the final, took two wkts in an over from nowhere. It was supposed to b a blunder to bring back Ishant, instead of Bhuvi, to bowl the crucial over, but golden luck of Dhoni turned the blunder move into a match winning one. 

In world cup 2011 final, dropping Ashwin to bring back Sreesanth was another blunder, but didn't matter much as India won.

On 2017-6-19 at 10:03 AM, veer said:

Kuch bhi... Selecting Ashwin n making him bowl full quota n den giving kadar n over in 39th doesn't need luck... He got lucky in Bangla game though

 

On 2017-6-19 at 10:09 AM, tweaker said:

Kohli is too stubborn . You have Shami & Umesh in the squad & you are selecting Ashwin &  Jadeja, you don't need luck.

 

He didn't change the batting order.He could  have promoted Jadhav over Yuvraj & Dhoni , but he didn't tinker the batting order.

 

Now we know inspite of having ABDV, Gayle, why he is not able to win the IPL

 

On 2017-6-19 at 11:08 AM, BeautifulGame said:

Fools believe in luck

There u guys see, mistakes of Kohli are highlighted more because team lost, but similar or even greater mistakes of dhoni were always ignored because he won. Otherwise Joginder, Sreesanth, Ishant were supposed to be bigger mistakes, bigger blunders...

 

On 2017-6-19 at 6:25 PM, Praggy said:

You make your own luck 

But Joginder and Ishant made Dhoni's luck in world T20 2007 and CT 2013, respectively.

Edited June 22, 2017 by DDfan2017

[cricketfan28]

he had the luck.. we won the toss.

[sscomp32]

On 6/20/2017 at 0:12 AM, Cricketics said:

Not the best of captaincy in this tournament from Kohli but surely a better captain than Dhoni of the recent history at this time for team India who quit because we used to suck under him for a while. No one else got the captiancy because no one was deemed good enough to keep their place in the team like Kohli who hardly gets injured and is available for every game. 

 

 

We have lost shambolically in the past too like losing to Pak and getting knocked out in 2008,CT and performing poorly in 2010 CT and not to forget all the t20 world cup tournaments post 2007. Yes all t20 tournaments, there are plenty of them where we did not even made to the finals.

 

 

That said, captaincy is overrated even though important. If Kohli had won the CT, I won't even give him that much credit as it is still the players who win you or lose you the game by playing as a team.

 

 

Luck comes with time. This is Kohli's first ICC tournament as captain and its still to early to rate him.

 

He is still our best captain we can have.

 

 

 

 You will give tough competition to those twitter fangirls. 

[bleaf27]

Well you know what they say , luck favors the brave.......it doesn't favor friendship and politics