Devdutt Padikkal

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Let’s also hope he doesn’t get picked on a couple of cameos and 6s. Hope he has a terrific FC,List A and maybe even IPl 

jaake FC cricket dekho na bina soche samjhe type krne ke siwa

He already has gr8 FC till now

Already avg 60 in list with 2-100s n 5 -50s in 13 games thats great consistency 

65.8 in t20s 

 

how can u achieve that avg with cameos . Dnt have hopes from IPL till he is in RCB.

Who gets picked on cameos?

Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

39 minutes ago, velu said:

 

I do remember that you claimed KL is a great player of spin

and ur point is ??

Have u seen him get squared up against spin.....i remeber a certain series against Australia where everyone was struggling on those dicey pitches and he was our best batsman

Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[velu]

11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

and ur point is ??

Have u seen him get squared up against spin.....i remeber a certain series against Australia where everyone was struggling on those dicey pitches and he was our best batsman

Point is he is crap vs spin .. hope you seen The video you posted 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, velu said:

Point is he is crap vs spin .. hope you seen The video you posted 

sehwag use to murder spin doesnt mean he never got out to spinners

Even the best players of spin have gotten out on spin

[velu]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

sehwag use to murder spin doesnt mean he never got out to spinners

Even the best players of spin have gotten out on spin

 

Ok .. I will post some of the KL demolishing Spinners video for you

[maniac]

36 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

jaake FC cricket dekho na bina soche samjhe type krne ke siwa

He already has gr8 FC till now

Already avg 60 in list with 2-100s n 5 -50s in 13 games thats great consistency 

65.8 in t20s 

 

how can u achieve that avg with cameos . Dnt have hopes from IPL till he is in RCB.

Who gets picked on cameos?

I don’t think I am able to get through to you

 

If a player has a stellar U-19,FC and IPl in the span of 1-2 years, absolutely pick them- you don’t see me complain about Shaw or Pant do you?

 

If a player is a late bloomer or doesn’t play IPL or is below average in the format or was never a big name in U-19 but has a stellar FC records over a quiet few years may be 3-4 or more absolutely get that player in- Do you see me complain about Vihari, Iyer or Mayank?

 

If a player is a star in the IPL format, regardless of other stats- sure give him a shot in the tamasha tontee tontee  if a slot opens up- I have always said Hardik is a must in LOI’s especially T20. I have a problem with him playing test cricket where he doesn’t belong. I also said it’s fine if Krunal got a shot in T20 but doesn’t change the fact that he is a mediocre hack and bits and pieces player. That’s a different debate. Please don’t even bring up his name for ODIs. Despite talent and mediocre performances in FC, I have had no issues with Samson playing T20 either. I will complain if Samson gets a free ride in ODIs or tests without doing jack in domestics.

 

Now coming to the guy I have been vocal about- Dube. He has had may be 1.5 middle of the road decent seasons, flop in IPL, not a u-19 potential, picked on a few cameos or because he hit a couple of 6’s. Now that I have a huge problem with.

 

I have no issues with fast bowlers inducted a little earlier but given our batting heritage and history it pains to see players like Jadhav,Dube and even to some extent Vijay Shankar getting free runs in the team because they fit a mould.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by maniac

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 minutes ago, maniac said:

I don’t think I am able to get through to you'

I absolutely underastand where ur taking a dig at 

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If a player is a star in the IPL format, regardless of other stats- sure give him a shot in the tamasha tontee tontee  if a slot opens up- I have always said Hardik is a must in LOI’s especially T20. I have a problem with him playing test cricket where he doesn’t belong.

He played coz of teams need and did better then many and again as i said u dnt follow FC or A games

Hardik did made runs on a green top on Aus-A pink ball game tour where all these A-batsman failed after which Dravid recommended he is ready . 

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I also said it’s fine if Krunal got a shot in T20 but doesn’t change the fact that he is a mediocre hack and bits and pieces player. That’s a different debate. Please don’t even bring up his name for ODIs. Despite talent and mediocre performances in FC, I have had no issues with Samson playing T20 either. I will complain if Samson gets a free ride in ODIs or tests without doing jack in domestics.

I never brought up krunal name for ODi , i dnt think he is ready for ODI by a huge margin

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Now coming to the guy I have been vocal about- Dube. He has had may be 1.5 middle of the road decent seasons, flop in IPL, not a u-19 potential, picked on a few cameos or because he hit a couple of 6’s. Now that I have a huge problem with.

IPL wasnt even a proper chance 

Again ur problem ur living in denial - He scored in Ranji, VH, A-games on Wi tour n SA 

 

So ur in denial ....

 

ur huge problem is living in old perception that a cricketer has to be sound n elegant. Cricket has evolved way beyond it.,...there are multiple roles like hitter, all rounder n even bits n pieces which is why each team picks such players coz their is a need.Ill give u an idea of ur perception world that u considered stokes, smith, taylor of more value then russell in t20 without even checking that stokes has a very poor record in t20 and neither has smith or taylor done well. u go by name.....cricket aint played for on names n on paper.

 

Dube doesnt compete with likes of samson, gill....he competes with guys like pandya, sky, krunal, jadhav, jadeja for roles at 6,7 which already doesnt have much option. u dnt want any of the names so clearly u dnt even have a plan for that role 

 

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I have no issues with fast bowlers inducted a little earlier but given our batting heritage and history it pains to see players like Jadhav,Dube and even to some extent Vijay Shankar getting free runs in the team because they fit a mould.

 

Vijay shankar also earned it.....he was the highest scorer on NZ-A tour which had players lile lockie , neesham n many more good bowlers....now did u even check before commenting on Shankar, he also has a Fc avg of 47. He clearly did better then iyer, pandey, mayank and he cud bowl as well which won us a agame against Aus and came in handy when bhuvi got injured against pakistan

 

Clearly u need follow domestic and A tours 

 

Most runs

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Shankar	3	3	1	188	87*	94.00	179	105.02	0	2	0	20	2
(India A)
MK Pandey	3	3	1	158	111*	79.00	157	100.63	1	0	0	12	3
(India A)
GH Worker	3	3	0	143	99	47.66	175	81.71	0	1	0	11	1
(New Zealand A)
SS Iyer	3	3	0	136	59	45.33	145	93.79	0	2	0	14	1
(India A)
WA Young	2	2	0	134	102	67.00	158	84.81	1	0	0	8	3
(New Zealand A)
TL Seifert	3	3	0	128	59	42.66	150	85.33	0	2	0	8	3
(New Zealand A)
HD Rutherford	3	3	0	105	70	35.00	105	100.00	0	1	0	15	1
(New Zealand A)
Ishan Kishan	3	3	0	86	47	28.66	98	87.75	0	0	1	6	4
(India A)
JDS Neesham	2	2	1	82	79*	82.00	55	149.09	0	1	0	7	2
(New Zealand A)
DJ Mitchell	2	2	0	75	45	37.50	73	102.73	0	0	0	1	5
(New Zealand A)
Anmolpreet Singh	1	1	0	71	71	71.00	80	88.75	0	1	0	8	1
(India A)
Shubman Gill	2	2	0	62	37	31.00	67	92.53	0	0	0	11	0
(India A)
MA Agarwal	2	2	0	49	25	24.50	50	98.00	0	0	0	8	0
(India A)
AR Bawne	1	1	0	48	48	48.00	49	97.95	0	0	0	7	0
(India A)
AR Patel	2	2	1	43	31	43.00	40	107.50	0	0	0	3	0
(India A)
CE McConchie	3	3	0	40	21	13.33	53	75.47	0	0	0	2	0
(New Zealand A)
DAJ Bracewell	3	3	1	29	11	14.50	32	90.62	0	0	0	1	1
(New Zealand A)
R Ravindra	2	2	1	21	21	21.00	28	75.00	0	0	0	3	0
(New Zealand A)
LH Ferguson	2	1	0	12	12	12.00	11	109.09	0	0	0	0	1
(New Zealand A)
KH Pandya	2	2	0	9	9	4.50	18	50.00	0	0	1	1	0
(India A)
K Gowtham	3	2	2	8	7*	-	7	114.28	0	0	0	1	0
(India A)
CJ Anderson	2	2	0	6	6	3.00	21	28.57	0	0	1	0	0
(New Zealand A)
SHA Rance	3	2	0	5	4	2.50	4	125.00	0	0	0	1	0
(New Zealand A)
HK Bennett	3	1	1	1	1*	-	1	100.00	0	0	0	0	0
(New Zealand A)
S Kaul	3	1	1	0	0*	-	0	-	0	0	0	0	0
(India A)

Records includes the following current or recent matches:

New Zealand A v India A at Mount Maunganui, 3rd unofficial ODI, Dec 11, 2018 [List A]

New Zealand A v India A at Mount Maunganui, 2nd unofficial ODI, Dec 9, 2018 [List A]

New Zealand A v India A at Mount Maunganui, 1st unofficial ODI, Dec 7, 2018 [List A]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

24 minutes ago, maniac said:

I don’t think I am able to get through to you

Do u even get the basic of selection which is 

A player skill is 1st needed or not- u dnt select similar players ...u need diff kind of players with diff skill set . No wonder u have ideas like pref rahane over dube....

Gill may be the best talent in India but he doesnt have skill for what teams need today at 6,7.....neither he or many youngsters have other skills. U Think teams around the world be it international or franchise are foolish who are going by same root. 

 

Dubey, Shankar didnt just get it on cameos they performed for A games as well and next step is national team. Clearly u dnt knw ur numbers

Edited November 25, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[vvvslaxman]

Caught some highlights. He is not a finished article yet.  No real great footwork. Just swings through the line. Lesser version of Sanju samson. Will be brutally exploited at the international level.

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Caught some highlights. He is not a finished article yet.  No real great footwork. Just swings through the line. Lesser version of Sanju samson. Will be brutally exploited at the international level.

every player is not about great footwork many are about hand eye coordination. His batting is kind of similar to gayle

yes he aint polish and he has enough time as there is no hurry coz we have enough options to try before him. He shud play 3-4 years of domestic n A games

N if u see his earlier videos n now there is a massive improvement which means he learns very quick

[Suhaan]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Caught some highlights. He is not a finished article yet.  No real great footwork. Just swings through the line. Lesser version of Sanju samson. Will be brutally exploited at the international level.

So you expect finished products from domestics straightaway?

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Caught some highlights. He is not a finished article yet.  No real great footwork. Just swings through the line. Lesser version of Sanju samson. Will be brutally exploited at the international level.

You advocate for Sehwag, batsman with best foot movement ever.

[jusarrived]

20 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Caught some highlights. He is not a finished article yet.  No real great footwork. Just swings through the line. Lesser version of Sanju samson. Will be brutally exploited at the international level.

Yes I was going to mention the same , but I wudnt say he’s going to be found out as yet . At  his age I have seen few batsmen who can hit that big , he’s gifted with great timing and also plays all around the park . There is enough to work with imo . 

[sandeep]

On 11/25/2019 at 10:49 AM, maniac said:

it pains to see players like Jadhav,Dube and even to some extent Vijay Shankar getting free runs in the team because they fit a mould.

 

 

Its important to do this from a longterm perspective.  By giving chances to guys like Sanjay Bangar, Stuart Binny, we created the incentives in domestic cricket to finally get a Hardik Pandya.   The Indian FC system has had skewed incentives historically.  Ranji teams prepeared tracks to suit their strengths, which were usually spin heavy.  Pace bowling allrounders are a rarity in India because of this.  

 

Dube looked ordinary with both bat and ball in hand. I'm not even sure he's good enough to play for Mumbai, let alone India.  I fully expect him to be another Rishi Dhawan.  BUT, I endorse the thought process that has brought him to the team.  

[maniac]

16 hours ago, rkt.india said:

You advocate for Sehwag, batsman with best foot movement ever.

Sehwag had a great hand eye coordination. He picked the line and length early. That was his gift .His decline coincided with his age and eyesight. Go figure.

 

Happens to most such players. A lesser example would be Kris Srikkanth. This is the same guy on his day could hit pacers for 6s. Remember his shots in the 83 final or in B and H series m, again eyesight gone, looked ordinary.

 

happens to most such players. Even MSD scores his runs on % cricket, no longer a destructive hitter towards the end. Yuvraj too wasn’t the same with age.

[vvvslaxman]

17 hours ago, rkt.india said:

You advocate for Sehwag, batsman with best foot movement ever.

This guy is not even close to Sehwag. Sehwag is not a zero foot movement player. He was extremely strong square of the wicket. That s when he doesn't use his feet.  His fast hands take over. When he plays on the front foot he uses his feet. r. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

This guy is not even close to Sehwag. Sehwag is not a zero foot movement player. He was extremely strong square of the wicket. That s when he doesn't use his feet.  His fast hands take over. When he plays on the front foot he uses his feet. r. 

sehwag himself wasnt close to sehwag when he was devudutt age 

nyways there are many more examples of batsman with hand eye coord then sehwag

Devdutt resembles more to someone like gayle 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

This guy is not even close to Sehwag.

You're comparing a 19 year old with Sehwag at his peak. You realise that, right? 

[gakgupta]

This guy is not even close to Sehwag. Sehwag is not a zero foot movement player. He was extremely strong square of the wicket. That s when he doesn't use his feet.  His fast hands take over. When he plays on the front foot he uses his feet. r. 

Woow...

Not even close to sehwag...???

Sehwag was one of the best batsmen in the world at his prime.....


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[Mosher]

Devdutt top scorer in Vijay Hazare and now the top scorer in SMA trophy  too.