Vilander Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Anderson was never fast, though he did swing the ball more. Steyn and Lee were always 10 to 20 kph faster than him, top speed, and swung it both ways. As good as Anderson was, the best spell of fast bowling I've seen was Steyn at Cape Town 2011 and he was swinging it miles, SRT negotiated him through a whole session. To put it into perspective, he didn't even let a set Gambhir face him, although he himself needed some luck to survive on that day and score a ton. amazing game. Only Kallis and Tendulkar could negotiate it. It was amazing to see it so clearly - only those two came through - but obviously Tendulkar against Steyn and Morkel. And Kallis against Z Khan Sreesanth great match UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jusarrived said: I maximum swing at relatively high speed I have seen is Anderson in England , Dravid to me played him to perfection . I agree Tendulkar played Steyn and Lee better though . i think it was different points in time. I honestly feel that it has to do with their form at that time - they were pretty close in their ability to play swing at very high pace at their prime form. Edited July 31, 2018 by Vilander UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 hours ago, speedheat said: New ball is easy to face in subcontinent only n only if the pitch is flat, you don't really need compact technique on flat tracks, even Rohit scores a daddy hundreds on flat tracks, its difficult pitch with lateral movement or square turner which evaluate a sound technique, may be you are getting confused between the best batsman and a good sound technique, kohli no doubt is ATG can't really compare him with Rahul but Rahul is certainly better to resist tough conditions, SRT was our best batsman for decades but ask any cricket expert it was Rahul dravid with best batting technique in the team. Rahul Dravid did not have better technique than Sachin.There is a reason why Sachin could score everywhere and also able to score when his hand eye coordination went down with age.Sachin had the best technique among all Indian players even better than Sunil Gavaskar. Sachin had very few weak spots in his technique that is why I am disappointed in him for not doing more. Which Sub continent track had help for seamers on which Rahul scored any runs. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 @speedheat Why did you put Dhoni in the poll? WTF is this technique? Clarke, The Dark Horse, philcric and 6 others 9 Link to comment
speedheat Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, Gollum said: @speedheat Why did you put Dhoni in the poll? WTF is this technique? Mai nahi bhai @velupoll isne banaya hai... Velu answer it... Gollum 1 Link to comment
velu Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, speedheat said: Mai nahi bhai @velupoll isne banaya hai... Velu answer it... done Link to comment
Khota Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 End of the day technique is about scoring runs. I understand you to spend time on the wkt in Tests but you do need to score. If you cant score there is something wrong. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 15 hours ago, Vilander said: actually you are right and wrong. It counts that he negates the new ball more often, but it is also a fact that he is not able to kick on and score runs like we want him to. Its difference between good to great. He is good enough in the team for his role atm. The problem is "negating" the new ball simply doesn't work as well in England. The Duke ball simply keeps offering something to the bowler throughout. It swings conventionally a lot longer and then offers reverse swing as well. There's no stretch of time when the batsmen can go for their strokes without any risk involved. At any stage of the game, there can be a ball with your name on it and no technique can help you survive that. Unless the wicket is exceptionally flat and the atmospheric conditions don't offer an inch of swing, the bowlers can always produce something UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 ROFL horrible techniques displayed so far UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, speedheat said: ROFL horrible techniques displayed so far I don't think you can blame techniques here, it was more to do with poor shot selection, lazy attitude and woeful game awareness. That is why not all great technicians are great batsmen. Ian Bell had such wonderful technique but the 1st few years of his career he was AWOL because of non-technique related reasons. Link to comment
CG Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 KL Rahul, one of the most compact techniques ever, better than Kohli, especially considering he opens in tests.Lol what. express bowling and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Moochad Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Looking at the poll, I am surprised that Rahul and Vijay got so many votes Rahul has a consistent problem in ODIs and Tests with throwing away his wicket. neither are Vijay's stats world beating Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s in Australia 2014-2015 4 8 0 482 144 60.25 905 53.25 1 4 1 53 6 in Bangladesh 2010-2015 2 2 0 180 150 90.00 321 56.07 1 0 0 15 1 in England 2014-2018 6 11 0 422 146 38.36 1099 38.39 1 2 1 60 2 in India 2008-2018 30 49 1 2257 167 47.02 4607 48.99 9 6 1 264 22 in New Zealand 2014-2014 2 4 0 48 26 12.00 109 44.03 0 0 0 8 0 in South Africa 2010-2018 6 12 0 278 97 23.16 803 34.62 0 1 0 39 0 in Sri Lanka 2010-2015 3 5 0 181 82 36.20 349 51.86 0 2 1 17 2 in West Indies 2011-2016 5 7 0 79 45 11.28 224 35.26 0 0 1 7 0 He only averages over 40 in India, Bangladesh, and Australia Kohli and Rahane are clearly better to me UrmiSinhaRay and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Moochad said: Looking at the poll, I am surprised that Rahul and Vijay got so many votes Rahul has a consistent problem in ODIs and Tests with throwing away his wicket. neither are Vijay's stats world beating Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s in Australia 2014-2015 4 8 0 482 144 60.25 905 53.25 1 4 1 53 6 in Bangladesh 2010-2015 2 2 0 180 150 90.00 321 56.07 1 0 0 15 1 in England 2014-2018 6 11 0 422 146 38.36 1099 38.39 1 2 1 60 2 in India 2008-2018 30 49 1 2257 167 47.02 4607 48.99 9 6 1 264 22 in New Zealand 2014-2014 2 4 0 48 26 12.00 109 44.03 0 0 0 8 0 in South Africa 2010-2018 6 12 0 278 97 23.16 803 34.62 0 1 0 39 0 in Sri Lanka 2010-2015 3 5 0 181 82 36.20 349 51.86 0 2 1 17 2 in West Indies 2011-2016 5 7 0 79 45 11.28 224 35.26 0 0 1 7 0 He only averages over 40 in India, Bangladesh, and Australia Kohli and Rahane are clearly better to me Ignore the averages of Vijay. I remember in one of the test he made only 6. But he survived against one of the most testing spell. His problem is conversion not technique. UrmiSinhaRay and speedheat 1 1 Link to comment
Moochad Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Ignore the averages of Vijay. I remember in one of the test he made only 6. But he survived against one of the most testing spell. His problem is conversion not technique. but I think conversion is a part of technique. Even Pujara hangs around sometimes but doesn't score runs a player should be able to hang in there and also score runs when there to count as having the best technique UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, Gollum said: I don't think you can blame techniques here, it was more to do with poor shot selection, lazy attitude and woeful game awareness. That is why not all great technicians are great batsmen. Ian Bell had such wonderful technique but the 1st few years of his career he was AWOL because of non-technique related reasons. Agree ian bell had compact straight bat technique, Rahul here played a lazy crossbat shot n I still think kohli has that outside off weakness UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Worst technical dismissal : Dinesh Karthik. Gap big enough for two elephants. Worst temperament: KL Rahul. Still in IPL mode UrmiSinhaRay and speedheat 1 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Karthik the great... Was late to get forward, created a big gap between bat n pad as he drove lol technique UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Vijay was good some 2 years back. But as of now there's nobody who can call himself an all-condition batsman. Kohli has only failed in Eng but an average of 13 is really worst. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Some batsmen have lost wickets due to bad technique (DK), some due to lack of test match temperament (Rahul), not reading line of ball (Vijay) and bad shot selection (Shikhar and Jinx). UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Moochad Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 2nd best 50 to 100 conversion rate all time 5th lowest dot ball percentage since 1999 Kohli adi B, UrmiSinhaRay, speedheat and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
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