Rohit Sharma's SR in LOIs

[Stan AF]

And posters here should stop throwing all the credit to the batsmen. Since CT 2017, all the win credits should specially go to the bowlers only.

 

We won in SA, Australia and in NZ primarily because of the bowlers. If we had fielded our full strength bowling we could have won in england also. But that is water under the bridge.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

And yet we score more 300s now and win much more than we have ever done in our history, this despite having a woeful middle order since 2015! 

 

Also, let's apply the same level of analysis for Sehwag.

 

In 127/245 innings, 52% of his total innings Sehwag scored 1215 runs@10 with a SR of 74. Extend this further, Sehwag scored less than 50 runs in 192/245 innings, 80% of his innings.

 

See how you can twist data to show whatever you want to.

Sehwag is way too over rated as a one day batsmen. Test, a great. one day, just an above average to good.

[ShoonyaSifar]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Sehwag is way too over rated as a one day batsmen. Test, a great. one day, just an above average to good.

He was given a role and he played that to perfection. 8000+ runs at a SR of 105 is phenomenal, only AB will come close and perhaps Afridi because he played forever.

 

Also, no other opener who played for so long would have a SR of 100+. That is why Sehwag was special and will always be among the first names on an all time Indian ODI 11.

Edited February 18, 2019 by ShoonyaSifar

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

He was given a role and he played that to perfection. 8000+ runs at a SR of 105 is phenomenal, only AB will come close and perhaps Afridi because he played forever.

he was far from perfection. He use to give u fast starts but then again was very inconsistent

his own captain ganguly once said in a show- sehwag underachieved in ODI. He played some damn good knocks

 

AB scored big runs with consistency, sehwag was mostly about 30-40 . 

2 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Also, no other opener who played for so long would have a SR of 100+. That is why Sehwag was special and will always be among the first names on an all time Indian ODI 11.

Sehwag was special but if an ATG ODI XI will be made rohit n dhawan will be ahead of him. They had more consistency , less s/r but then consistency n numbers are the diff 

 

In test sehwag was an ATG

In ODI- underachiever 

[CG]

India Plays Diff style of odi cricket to england who only bat in one gear.Against Good Bowling Lineups Indian Approach Should work better than england.Dhawan and Rohit partnership compliment each other .They just need to be in form and world cup should be a cakewalk with our bowling.

[Ankit_sharma03]

People who point to s/r diff between sehwag n rohit also needs to understand that comes at a cost of huge inconsistency and this batting linup cant afford that 

 

Sehwag

 

 

5 good years and max his avg went to 50 , s/r alwats above 100 

Retired now

 

 

Rohit sharma 

 

 

7 gr8 years and still playing, hiss/r has improved every year and look at those avg 70+ in 2 yrs and 60 in 1, 50 in 4 yrs whereas sehwag managed 50+ in only 1 year 

 

and he is still not retired . 

 

in 50 less games rohit has 7 more 100s. YEs s/r is comparatively less but covers it up with huge consistency . The point is his s/r is not 70 that ppl are crying.....ur not paying a huge price of consistency 

 

[CG]

People who point to s/r diff between sehwag n rohit also needs to understand that comes at a cost of huge inconsistency and this batting linup cant afford that 
 
Sehwag
 

 
5 good years and max his avg went to 50 , s/r alwats above 100 
Retired now
 
 
Rohit sharma 
 

 
7 gr8 years and still playing, hiss/r has improved every year and look at those avg 70+ in 2 yrs and 60 in 1, 50 in 4 yrs whereas sehwag managed 50+ in only 1 year 
 
and he is still not retired . 
 
in 50 less games rohit has 7 more 100s. YEs s/r is comparatively less but covers it up with huge consistency . The point is his s/r is not 70 that ppl are crying.....ur not paying a huge price of consistency 
 

Yes with our middle order we need stable start platform.We are winning everywhere so I don't see point of this thread.

[Tibarn]

Better to worry about passengers in our middle order and toothless non-wicket takers in our bowling attack than one of the handful of best ODI batsmen in the world. 

 

I think one should remember that Kohli's record also suffers when he is forced to come in to bat in the 1st 10 overs.   

 

If it's such a big deal than does one really want to send Rahul as opener, tell him to hack at a few deliveries and get out for 20 with a 120 SR, so then Rohit or Kohli can come in after?

 

 

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

He was given a role and he played that to perfection. 8000+ runs at a SR of 105 is phenomenal, only AB will come close and perhaps Afridi because he played forever.

 

Also, no other opener who played for so long would have a SR of 100+. That is why Sehwag was special and will always be among the first names on an all time Indian ODI 11.

there was no such role given, that was just his game, that is how he played his cricket in all formats which at times frustrated everyone, us fans as well as team management but it was always covered in the garb of playing natural game, but as Dravid said sometime back that natural game thing is BS.  One has to play to situation.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

People who point to s/r diff between sehwag n rohit also needs to understand that comes at a cost of huge inconsistency and this batting linup cant afford that 

 

Sehwag

 

 

5 good years and max his avg went to 50 , s/r alwats above 100 

Retired now

 

 

Rohit sharma 

 

 

7 gr8 years and still playing, hiss/r has improved every year and look at those avg 70+ in 2 yrs and 60 in 1, 50 in 4 yrs whereas sehwag managed 50+ in only 1 year 

 

and he is still not retired . 

 

in 50 less games rohit has 7 more 100s. YEs s/r is comparatively less but covers it up with huge consistency . The point is his s/r is not 70 that ppl are crying.....ur not paying a huge price of consistency 

 

since 2014, he has an SR of 95 plus and average of 60 plus. 

[sandeep]

10 hours ago, Nikola said:

Doesn't matter if he scores 5000 runs or becomes bradman. He fails in 58% of matches and scores at strike rate of 65 when he fails to convert big.

That's the billion dollar point.  Cricket is a team game.  Individual aggregate numbers may be great, but our team totals are consistently evidence of underachievement.  

[zen]

9 hours ago, mani sha said:

 

sooner india looses world cup better . my openers are shaw dhawan and rahul anyday over rohit 

 

Rohit is a liability in odi -when ball swings 

 

his plus point is pitches in aussie and sa - his strike rate is higher when bowlers bowl short and india wins such matches 

if swinging pitch or anyone who will raise his left arm to bowl - he is a walking duck 

Rohit Sharma has to play quickly in PPs or eventually vacant the spot .... the way he plays his cricket, he needs to be way more consistent .... Since 2016, avgs just 13 with a SR of 66 in most of his games, which would include games on bowling friendly surfaces where he was supposed to lay foundation 

[ShoonyaSifar]

31 minutes ago, zen said:

Rohit Sharma has to play quickly in PPs or eventually vacant the spot .... the way he plays his cricket, he needs to be way more consistent .... Since 2016, avgs just 13 with a SR of 66 in most of his games, which would include games on bowling friendly surfaces where he was supposed to lay foundation 

Dude, give up on that silly line of argument.

 

You do not need data to prove some points, just common sense will tell you that

1. Players will have high average and SR in matches where they score 50+ and will have lower average and SR in other matches. Every player will have similar stats, give and take a few points here and there

2. Almost every player has 50%+  instance of not scoring 50. That does not make them inconsistent.

3. Any one, especially an opener having a 50+ once in 3 innings is very good,a 40% rate makes them great . Most players with a long career will have similar success rate

 

[zen]

5 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Dude, give up on that silly line of argument.

 

You do not need data to prove some points, just common sense will tell you that

1. Players will have high average and SR in matches where they score 50+ and will have lower average and SR in other matches. Every player will have similar stats, give and take a few points here and there

2. Almost every player has 50%+  instance of not scoring 50. That does not make them inconsistent.

3. Any one, especially an opener having a 50+ once in 3 innings is very good,a 40% rate makes them great . Most players with a long career will have similar success rate

 

The point is that to play the way he does, he has to be more consistent or score quickly  ....  Also that avg and SR are among the lowest as posted on this thread .... I do not think you understand what is being discussed here .... But as a Rohit fan, feel free to find comfort in whatever pleases you! 

 

[zen]

20 hours ago, zen said:

Since 2016, Ind has won 40 of the 58 games involving Sharma. In 32 of those 58 games, Rohit has scored less than 50. Of the 32 games where Rohit has scored less than 50, Ind has won 19 (59%) 

 

One can argue that Rohit getting out early could improve India's win %. And that he scores mainly on batting friendly surfaces where as a team we could have done well too if he had failed ....  Therefore, puts a question mark on his match winner status  

 

 

 

 

FTR, of the 32 games, 23 are vs SENA which has a good opening bowling attack 

Edited February 18, 2019 by zen

[Pollack]

What annoys me is Rohit plays the same way whether chasing 150-320 or 320+ totals whether playing on flattest of conditions or against poor/mediocre bowling attacks.

[zen]

Avg and SR of openers from the top 5 teams since 2017 

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
C Munro (NZ)	2017-2019	22	22	0	382	49	17.36	380	100.52	0	0	4	48	10
S Dhawan (INDIA)	2017-2019	33	33	0	693	49	21.00	762	90.94	0	0	2	104	8
JM Bairstow (ENG)	2017-2018	20	20	1	504	44	26.52	560	90.00	0	0	1	63	8
DA Warner (AUS)	2017-2018	14	14	1	278	42	21.38	321	86.60	0	0	0	31	2
AK Markram (SA)	2018-2018	7	7	0	214	42	30.57	254	84.25	0	0	0	30	3
JJ Roy (ENG)	2017-2018	28	28	0	492	49	17.57	587	83.81	0	0	4	63	8
HM Amla (SA)	2017-2019	23	23	0	457	43	19.86	567	80.59	0	0	1	61	2
Q de Kock (SA)	2017-2019	20	20	0	425	47	21.25	555	76.57	0	0	2	42	2
MJ Guptill (NZ)	2017-2019	20	20	0	392	48	19.60	535	73.27	0	0	1	45	7
RG Sharma (INDIA)	2017-2019	26	26	0	330	48	12.69	527	62.61	0	0	2	31	11

 

Edited February 18, 2019 by zen

[Clarke]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Sehwag is way too over rated as a one day batsmen. Test, a great. one day, just an above average to good.

Kabhi ftb kabhi great 

 

How many personalities do u have ?

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 hour ago, zen said:

The point is that to play the way he does, he has to be more consistent or score quickly  ....  Also that avg and SR are among the lowest as posted on this thread .... I do not think you understand what is being discussed here .... But as a Rohit fan, feel free to find comfort in whatever pleases you! 

 

I understand that you have put in so much effort in doing your ‘data analysis’. But those 3 points I gave discredit all your effort. That’s what happens with such shoddy analysis. Me being a Rohit fan or not does not matter but safe to say either you do not understand data or are pretending to be dumb. In either case, unfortunately cannot help you much. Carry on with your ‘eureka’ moment

[zen]

6 hours ago, Pollack said:

What annoys me is Rohit plays the same way whether chasing 150-320 or 320+ totals whether playing on flattest of conditions or against poor/mediocre bowling attacks.

I think he is afraid of being called maggie noddles so takes his time to get to a 50 (despite taking more time than others fails miserably most of the time) 

Edited February 18, 2019 by zen