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What happened to Shreyas Iyer?


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On these pattas, Iyer at #4 would have been an upgrade over whoever we have atm, someone who effortlessly strikes at 100 in 50 overs matches and a murderer of spin bowling. Also based on List A records, he seems to have found the correct tempo in this format, something that eludes Pant. And did I mention 'a fine fielder as well'?

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If these guys want to get into the side learn to bowl :) Atleast decent off spin or leg spin. That is the best way you can come in.  Someone like Tendulkar never needed to learn bowling, sehwag, Ganguly the same Dravid did the keeping for 2003 world cup. Yuvraj did bowl. These guys don't just step outside their comfort zone. On that score i like Ashwin. Even when he batted at 8 he took his batting seriously (albeit he started his career as an opener but for his state still a lower order batsman) did better than some of the specialists.

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36 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

If these guys want to get into the side learn to bowl :) Atleast decent off spin or leg spin. That is the best way you can come in.  Someone like Tendulkar never needed to learn bowling, sehwag, Ganguly the same Dravid did the keeping for 2003 world cup. Yuvraj did bowl. These guys don't just step outside their comfort zone. On that score i like Ashwin. Even when he batted at 8 he took his batting seriously (albeit he started his career as an opener but for his state still a lower order batsman) did better than some of the specialists.

That is what is making Indian team for both test and odi one dimesional teams. I don't see any young batsmen who have some ability as bowlers either in domestic cricket.Nor do we see any big hitters.Yuvraj was our last hitter and there is reason why him and Raina kept getting chances.

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10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

That is what is making Indian team for both test and odi one dimesional teams. I don't see any young batsmen who have some ability as bowlers either in domestic cricket.Nor do we see any big hitters.Yuvraj was our last hitter and there is reason why him and Raina kept getting chances.

Exactly. Tendulkar at 18 bowled 41st over to the last pair and helped India tie the game. Then hero cup. Most importantly in the epic eden garden test he picked up 3 of the key wickets in the 2nd innings. Sehwag has done his bit with ball as well. Whatever happened to Rohit sharma the "hatrick holder" why didn't he pursue his bowling afterwards.

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1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Exactly. Tendulkar at 18 bowled 41st over to the last pair and helped India tie the game. Then hero cup. Most importantly in the epic eden garden test he picked up 3 of the key wickets in the 2nd innings. Sehwag has done his bit with ball as well. Whatever happened to Rohit sharma the "hatrick holder" why didn't he pursue his bowling afterwards.

Rohit became too fat and too lazy.We can blame Kohli all we want but he is saddled with bloody one dimesional players .Bumrah who is the one one who can justify his place a specialist bowler.Even Australia in their peak wouldn't have carried four Mcgraths. It ruins total team balance.

 

We have some guys calling Rohit Sharma is problem.

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24 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Rohit became too fat and too lazy.We can blame Kohli all we want but he is saddled with bloody one dimesional players .Bumrah who is the one one who can justify his place a specialist bowler.Even Australia in their peak wouldn't have carried four Mcgraths. It ruins total team balance.

 

We have some guys calling Rohit Sharma is problem.

Huge credit to Pandya for taking both departments seriously. It is very very hard to be a fast bowling all rounder. you spend a lot of energy bowling fast. HE also tries to be quick on the field. Lot of hardwork has gone into it.

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Unlike KLR and KKN, SI has a legitimate grouse.  Unfortunately, his two best ODI innings were both overshadowed - one by a Rohit Sharma double-hundred special and the other by a Dhawan 100.  After those two innings, he tapered off, but not so much that he is not even in the reckoning anymore.  He has been scoring heavily in all forms of cricket since then and deserves strong consideration.  

 

There was some talk of him being too big for his shoes, but he has shown his maturity by captaining an IPL team to a playoff appearance.  Not an easy task for a 24 y.o. player trying to establish himself.  

 

Bottom line:  Along with Agarwal, Gill and Shaw, he is likely to be in the next group of good Indian batsmen.  

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6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Huge credit to Pandya for taking both departments seriously. It is very very hard to be a fast bowling all rounder. you spend a lot of energy bowling fast. HE also tries to be quick on the field. Lot of hardwork has gone into it.

not sold on Pandya yet, I don't know if he has ability to score 100 when chips are down or take wickets when needed, his bowling honestly stinks.He is the best we got.

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another victim of  team management incompetency. Iyer played 5 matches  , avg:ed 42 at high str: .He was only 23 then and  got dropped. So he showed glimpse of his abilities.Instead of persisting with that rookie team management dropped him and brought in Rayudu at 33+ age.Captain gave an eye catching interview  and proclaimed that he has found the no:4 spot in Rayudu .Now with the all important  tournament about to begin  there is neither Iyer nor Rayudu. Mayank Agarwal deserved a chance in ODI  more than several youngsters as per his LIST A stats at least before 25. That didn't happen either.

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Perfectly suited for shorter formats, dunno about tests but no reason the kid can't develop into a white ball great. Love the tempo he maintains right from the start of an innings, similar to Raina in that regard and boy does he murder spin !!!! Great body language as well, blunder to not have invested time in him before the WC. Future captaincy material I reckon. 

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On 5/16/2019 at 12:21 PM, rtmohanlal said:

another victim of  team management incompetency. Iyer played 5 matches  , avg:ed 42 at high str: .He was only 23 then and  got dropped. So he showed glimpse of his abilities.Instead of persisting with that rookie team management dropped him and brought in Rayudu at 33+ age.Captain gave an eye catching interview  and proclaimed that he has found the no:4 spot in Rayudu .Now with the all important  tournament about to begin  there is neither Iyer nor Rayudu. Mayank Agarwal deserved a chance in ODI  more than several youngsters as per his LIST A stats at least before 25. That didn't happen either.

not only rayudu he claimed the same about yuvi, DK, rahane

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Perfectly suited for shorter formats, dunno about tests but no reason the kid can't develop into a white ball great. Love the tempo he maintains right from the start of an innings, similar to Raina in that regard and boy does he murder spin !!!! Great body language as well, blunder to not have invested time in him before the WC. Future captaincy material I reckon. 

And that's the main reason why he has not being given a long run. Kohli loves those meek and submissive guys like Kedar, DK , Rayudu, Shankar etc.... who are not really a threat to reach his image and brand value. But guys like Iyer and Gill have that persona and of course the skillset  to challenge him for that. 

 

There is no other logic to take DK, Shankar, Jadhav etc ahead of Gill and Iyer, Pant (initially) etc for the world cup. Cheeku bhaiya's insecurity literally lost us the whole thing. 

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