nevada Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, zen said: That is not apples to apples as if batsmen can play various shots, bowlers can bowl various types of balls too (bouncers, yorkers, spin, swing, slow balls). If miss hits go to boundaries, good shots are caught too Iirc, WKs have been fined for waiting for batsmen to get off balance to stump them Games should be played in right spirit. Even a terrorist can justify his attack by using any logic Terrorism vs Mandkading comparison isnt apples to apples either. Terrorism for any so called cause is illegal. Mankading isn't illegal. More bowlers should start doing this to keep batsmen in check. It's an eyesore to watch batsmen plundering runs at will with the bowlers reduced to ball boy status. flamy, Real McCoy, Gollum and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Having said all that it is freaking amusing to see international players wandering off the crease casually for decades. It has become a normalized thing. Wandering off. Your bat or your body should be inside the crease until the ball is bowled. It is against the spirit of the game you are completely out of the crease at the time of the delivery. I am pretty sure all players are guilty of it. This has to stop. Even Ashwin might have done it. Who knows. Have you guys done that? I have never done that. I am a strict rule follower. I find it shocking to see players at this level do this. A bit like how Sehwag running without stretching. Stan AF, GoldenSun, flamy and 3 others 6
nevada Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Having said all that it is freaking amusing to see international players wandering off the crease casually for decades. It has become a normalized thing. Wandering off. Your bat or your body should be inside the crease until the ball is bowled. It is against the spirit of the game you are completely out of the crease at the time of the delivery. I am pretty sure all players are guilty of it. This has to stop. Even Ashwin might have done it. Who knows. Have you guys done that? I have never done that. I am a strict rule follower. I find it shocking to see players at this level do this. A bit like how Sehwag running without stretching. Yes, batsmen have been stealing runs against the spirit of the game for too long now..Keep the feckers in check with more Mankading/Ashwining. flamy, Gollum, Unstable Joe and 2 others 5
Real McCoy Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, zen said: That is not apples to apples as if batsmen can play various shots, bowlers can bowl various types of balls too (bouncers, yorkers, spin, swing, slow balls). If miss hits go to boundaries, good shots are caught too Iirc, WKs have been fined for waiting for batsmen to get off balance to stump them Games should be played in right spirit. Even a terrorist can justify his attack by using any logic vvvslaxman 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, nevada said: Yes, batsmen have been stealing runs against the spirit of the game for too long now..Keep the feckers in check with more Mankading/Ashwining. Since the day when Walsh let Salim jaffer go with warning (a match they ended up losing and couldn't make it to semi because of that) this act of not mankading is considered some "Nobel peace prize" awardsque act by all sundries. This is 100% cricket law. There should ideally be no hazy area. Technically it doesn't matter if he is only 1 inch out or 5 yards out. It is all the same. How hard it is to keep the bat in if not the whole body until he releases. You will still have enough time especially with a spinner bowling to have a head start. Gollum, nevada, Real McCoy and 2 others 1 4
Real McCoy Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) IMO what Ashwin did was wrong not because of Mankading but because he stopped and waited till Buttler moved. And its also a good thing to warn a batsman once before doing the mankading. Having said that Buttler has moved out of the crease on several occasions. He was also mankaded by SL player once. So he is not innocent either. He may be innocent in yesterday's match. PS - Lady Jaya who was the captain who didn't withdraw his appeal for the Buttler mankading. Its ironic that he was the one who talked about spirit of cricket when Thrimmane was mankaded after warning by Ashwin. I'm seeing SLans crying about this incident on twitter. All I could say to them and lady jaya is Edited March 26, 2019 by Real McCoy Gollum and Unstable Joe 2
vvvslaxman Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: IMO what Ashwin did was wrong not because of Mankading but because he stopped and waited till Buttler moved. And its also a good thing to warn a batsman once before doing the mankading. Having said that Buttler has moved out of the crease on several occasions. He was also mankaded by SL player once. So he is not innocent either. He may be innocent in yesterday's match. PS - Lady Jaya who was the captain who didn't withdraw his appeal for the Buttler mankading. Its ironic that he was the one who talked about spirit of cricket when Thrimmane was mankaded after warning by Ashwin. I'm seeing SLans crying about this incident on twitter. All I could say to them and lady jaya is Umpire gave him out. He could delay all he wants. he could dance for few minutes and come back. But as long as ball is in his hand he should not leave the crease. It is a simple law. He didn't use sand paper or bend 15 degree more or claimed bumped ball. flamy and Gollum 2
vvvslaxman Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Srilankans should stop whining. I remember them bowling a noball when sehwag or someone was about to get a 100 then the toss fiasco in 2011 world cup final. Not to mention the series of chuckers they unleashed. Gollum, GoldenSun and Real McCoy 3
express bowling Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 1. If it is against the spirit of the game then why do the laws allow such a dismissal ? Blame the law and the people allowing such a law to exist then and not the people using it to get a dismissal. 2. What about the batsman advancing out of the crease before the ball is bowled ! Is it not against the spirit of the game ? In a nutshell ... allow only such laws which are in the spirit of the game . Mosher, nevada, The Dark Horse and 2 others 1 4
The Dark Horse Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 @velu @Real McCoy @VVS Laxman velu, Forever Indian and Real McCoy 3
CoverDrive Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 100% behind Ashwin in this. Genius move and won the game for his team. With batsmen getting all the advantages in the game bowlers need to find new ways to get them out. This is a legit strategy in baseball. How is this any more against the spirit of game than short pitch bowling or switch hit. flamy and nevada 1 1
Adi BB Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Let's see if any bowler does that to ashwin when he comes out to bat
Mosher Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Right or wrong, Ashwin has fired up the IPL. Great start to the tournament. Hope to see some more fireworks when these 2 teams meet again but this time with Ashwin's team at the receiving end velu, Adi BB, express bowling and 1 other 3 1
Adi BB Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mosher said: Right or wrong, Ashwin has fired up the IPL. Great start to the tournament. Hope to see some more fireworks when these 2 teams meet again but this time with Ashwin's team at the receiving end Yeah it has definitely made the IPL interesting and fired up the tournie ,now upto the other teams to provide us entertainment by any means Mosher 1
Zero_Unit Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 I didn't watch the match today and can't find the highlight either. Anyone has the video of the incident?
mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, express bowling said: 1. If it is against the spirit of the game then why do the laws allow such a dismissal ? Blame the law and the people allowing such a law to exist then and not the people using it to get a dismissal. 2. What about the batsman advancing out of the crease before the ball is bowled ! Is it not against the spirit of the game ? In a nutshell ... allow only such laws which are in the spirit of the game . Spirit of game is done as soon as batsman mooves out of crease. That was a tight over and Butler mooved out every ball, its on ball 6 Ash gunned down Butler. He should have broken the stumps in ball 1 itself. If prople have problem, They should go back and Ask ICC to bring in warning clause, which ICC itself removed Edited March 26, 2019 by mishra express bowling 1
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 10 hours ago, bowl_out said: Buttler was in the crease when the bowler would have normally released the ball.. No he wasn't, as this video shows.
speedheat Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 This game is already ridiculously bias in favour of batsman. I don't see similar furor on switch hits, legside wide and those ridiculous inside edge fours. What ashwin did was legit within the rules of the game irrespective of the manner with which he did. express bowling 1
mishra Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 4 hours ago, The Dark Horse said: If this is in the lawbook, then what are we debating on? Ignorance. Most posters hadn’t read the rule before they started bashing Ashwin.
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