someone Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Imo, modern liberals is like Abrahamic religion without the god. The binary view is so obvious. Their way or the highway. They believe in "temporary" tolerance rather than "mutual respect". The latter is in-built in dharmic culture... ravishingravi, Laaloo and Yoda-esque 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 While reading Rahul Roshan’s book « the Sanghi who never went to Shaka » I found stark similarities in his journey with my own and many others. It would be interesting analyse and understand how one political inclination evolves. You might be even a apolitical but pushed to take side based on circumstances or hyper activism on other side. Many perhaps got disillusioned by fundamentalism and illiberalism on left liberal side. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 While reading Rahul Roshan’s book « the Sanghi who never went to Shaka » I found stark similarities in his journey with my own and many others. It would be interesting analyse and understand how one political inclination evolves. You might be even a apolitical but pushed to take side based on circumstances or hyper activism on other side. Many perhaps got disillusioned by fundamentalism and illiberalism on left liberal side. I haven't read the book , but I guarantee I am in the same boat and the journey hasn't been different ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Woke Feminist Pronoun specifier Outright hates majority group Mostly from majority group but has anti establishment streak running from childhood Shows love for minority to the point that he or she is accepted as woke by fellow woke people. Will be the first ones getting dealt with when the said minority eventually becomes majority. velu, ravishingravi, coffee_rules and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 This one a card carrying member. This is attempted humor on Vaxx drive which tweeple are tweeting. It shows more about her hate for the current establishment than being funny. Feminist for you that Indian libtards are RTing and QTing as though a point has been proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Woke Feminist Pronoun specifier Outright hates majority group Mostly from majority group but has anti establishment streak running from childhood Shows love for minority to the point that he or she is accepted as woke by fellow woke people. Will be the first ones getting dealt with when the said minority eventually becomes majority. Irony is they help create majority. In most democracies there is no clear majority group. There can be issue based majorities. @Mariyam can correct me if I am wrong but Indian constitution doesn’t define concept of minority anywhere. Why should anybody feel like one ? Edited March 22, 2021 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Irony is they help create majority. In most democracies there is no clear majority group. There can be issue based majorities. @Mariyam can correct me if I am wrong but Indian constitution doesn’t define concept of minority anywhere. Why should anybody feel like one ? Article 29 and 30 do not specify what the 'minorities' are. They mention grounds for classification: Religious and Linguistic. It's the National Commission of Minorities Act that spells out who these minorities are. In any case, looking at minorities at a nationwide level in India is just wrong. Should a person belonging to a minority community claim benefits under backwardness or in the name if inclusion of he were to reside in an area where he is a majority. Edited March 23, 2021 by Mariyam ravishingravi and Vilander 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Article 29 and 30 do not specify what the 'minorities' are. They mention grounds for classification: Religious and Linguistic. It's the National Commission of Minorities Act that spells out who these minorities are. In any case, looking at minorities at a nationwide level in India is just wrong. Should a person belonging to a minority community claim benefits under backwardness or in the name of inclusion of he were to reside in an area where he is a majority. 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Irony is they help create majority. In most democracies there is no clear majority group. There can be issue based majorities. @Mariyam can correct me if I am wrong but Indian constitution doesn’t define concept of minority anywhere. Why should anybody feel like one ? It is all left to interpretation of who minority is, as per our articles of constitution. When it was formulated, in 1951, Legislature assumed that it is based on nationwide percentage of population. As there is no broad group as Hinduism, the castes were the basis of categorizing who was minority. Muslims were included as minority based on that, as most was expected to move to East or West Pakistan. Lot of them remained and politics and vote bank appeasement termed them as minorities. Now, every caste, sub-caste and sub-sub-caste wants to be categorized as minorities for benefits. So, this whole Minority tag for a community in India is a farce in a global concept. Marginalized and under-privileged is the sub-altern terms used instead by liberals in a western terminology. We need to define our own terms for our society and not ape the west. Vilander and ravishingravi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cliff Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Vilander said: Woke Feminist Pronoun specifier Outright hates majority group Mostly from majority group but has anti establishment streak running from childhood Shows love for minority to the point that he or she is accepted as woke by fellow woke people. Will be the first ones getting dealt with when the said minority eventually becomes majority. Chinese have a word for it - Baizou! Clarke, PunterLog, Vilander and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 hours ago, coffee_rules said: This one a card carrying member. This is attempted humor on Vaxx drive which tweeple are tweeting. It shows more about her hate for the current establishment than being funny. Feminist for you that Indian libtards are RTing and QTing as though a point has been proven. yeah man...i agree.. Namo is great, lets name Gujrat state as Narendra modi.. or better lets name India as Narendra modi.. that sounds abt right. Banton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/15/2021 at 8:00 AM, Laaloo said: I have yet to encounter one. Are you Daya Nayak? Yoda-esque 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/3/2020 at 12:36 PM, Gollum said: Kahaan se aate hain yeh log? A fair few Muslims celebrate Raksha Bandhan. It isn't seen as a religious festival as much as a celebration of culture. Its a composite culture that Muslims too are a part of. Can a sentence end with a preposition? Probably not. I have not heard of cases where Muslims are opposed to tying rakhis because its a festival from the Hindu faith. That kind of opposition is definitely not the norm. The opposition to Raksha Bandhan is mainly from the " a woman shouldn't need protection and could protect herself yadda yadda "school of thought. Not that I necessarily disagree, but that's a totally different discussion. Edited March 24, 2021 by Mariyam EnterTheVoid and ravishingravi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gollum Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mariyam said: A fair few Muslims celebrate Raksha Bandhan. It isn't seen as a religious festival as much as a celebration of culture. Its a composite culture that Muslims too are a part of. Can a sentence end with a preposition? Probably not. I have not heard of cases where Muslims are opposed to tying rakhis because its a festival from the Hindu faith. That kind of opposition is definitely not the norm. The opposition to Raksha Bandhan is mainly from the " a woman shouldn't need protection and could protect herself yadda yadda "school of thought. Not that I necessarily disagree, but that's a totally different discussion. Ok my full post isn't visible, just that tweet. A few Muslims may celebrate RB, a few past Muslim rulers may have celebrated it in their courts, but Mughals "invented" it? Few so called historians may believe that Mughals taught us backward natives how to dress, what to eat, invented our festivals etc......as if India was a big zero before their entry. These kind of assertions shouldn't go unchallenged. Edited March 24, 2021 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Mughal festival that originated in Delhi? @Mariyam RB finds mention in the Puranas, ancient India stuff. Mughals is medieval India. I don't have an issue with the Shah Alam story, may have happened, may have been a myth, that isn't the point here. Another gem by this particular historian where she claimed this below painting from Rajasthan was about Krishna pointing towards Eid moon. Wrong on both counts....not from Rajasthan, nothing to do with Eid ka chand Clarification on painting supposedly depicting “Eid ka Chand” Attracted many reactions back then and history lessons to boot, unfortunately many tweets deleted, handles like TrueIndology banned....summary of what transpired Is lying for plurality and inclusivity okay? l Mariyam, diga and Laaloo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 There was one festival that Mughals started in India,can anyone guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: There was one festival that Mughals started in India,can anyone guess? Ram Navami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Ram NavamiClose but incorrect,it wasn't a festival as much as it was an annual event... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) @Gollum Thank you for the educational posts. My post was more to do with present day Muslims celebrating it than the genesis of the festival. I would guess that some Mughal king would have picked up a local practice that existed since aeons, added some masala to it and passed it off as his own. Some court historian in his zeal to please the king would have waxed eloquent on the 'original' idea in his court memoirs. I don't think the general perception among people is that RB is a Mughal invention. This is the reason I really dislike history. Its all he said she said, and many sources can't be vetted. One believes in stuff that supports ones' narrative. As far as Raksha Bandhan is concerned, every girl should partake. Wonder weapon to bro-zone/friend-zone! Edited March 25, 2021 by Mariyam sandeep, Clarke, Gollum and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 The silence of liberals in Rashmi Samant case is defeaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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