India vs SA, 3rd T20I, Bangalore

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Umesh has a far better stock delivery than Saini.Umesh is deadly in Indian conditions .He is fittest bowler and can run in hard in any session.

whats the point of that stock outswinger when he bowls it on leg

Yes he is good in indian condition but only in indian condition.....why does he goes to overseas in squad despite being bang below avg for ages

saini is damn fit

whats the point of fitness when he bowls it on legs 

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

A guy who has three 5fers in 43 FC games is not special by any means stop with your hype , I have seen enough of Saini .

In Fc games a lot of wkts are being wkts by spinners and delhi has a very good attack so wkts get shared

 

1 minute ago, putrevus said:

Just because Shardul was played by mistake you don't  give out test debut to another player commiting same mistake.Even Shardul has better bowling figures in FC than Saini.

just like vinay kumar has whose name u mention

who will watch the skill ......

Selection job isnt that easy that u wake up n see stats ....u need to see skill set and sometimes even ignore the numbers

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Jadeja won bowler of tournament and won India CT 2013 so what , stop with you Moms. it means nothing.Jadeja is far better bowler than Krunal and better fielder.

 

 

CT 2013 was ODI and we are talking about t20 cricket 

understand format diff......jadeja has been crap in t20

 

Go check stats with format diff....dhawan n dhoni have been gr8 in odi but not in t20 (format diff )

Sorry Krunal is a better t20 bowler IPL n international t20 has proved it head n square. Damn so much opinion on players without even watching cricket

[maniac]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

15 .....hahaha....har game to jonty bhi 15 nhin bachata tha

yet krunal has 3 Mom in such short career and jadeja has a poor record. So krunal won India that one game overseas which was crucial in winning series and the amount of games jadeja has lost with bat n ball in t20 is a lot

 

lets play manish pandey also ahead of any batsman since he is such a good fielder. Both togther will save 25-30 runs going by ur estimate and we shud win 90% t20 games with that margin

 

Yes Manish Pandey at his best form like he was in IPL this year or in the past is way more useful than Krunal. Batting is no contest. Fielding is a no contest, he is as good as Jadeja in the field and I am sure he can dart an over or 2. If not those overs can be squeezed from some other part timer 

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

If Pant, Krunal etc cannot step up and deliver, then replacements like Ishan, Nitish Rana would need to be auditioned.   Not trying to improve is not an option.

 

Tired of you repeating the same 4 lines over and over, without understanding the opposing perspective,  or even trying to.

You need to understand trying other options take time, you need to give players proper chances before you discard them.You also need to understand you cannot ask top three to change their style just like that, it is not going to happen.I don't think they will change their style now for rest of their careers.

 

You cannot expect Rohit to become Sehwag.Each has their own strengths.Is IPL not there not assess their hitting abilities consistently.Do you really think there are big hitters in domestic cricket.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Yes Manish Pandey at his best form like he was in IPL this year or in the past is way more useful than Krunal.

did well Batting at 3....do u see a slot avl their. He was **** till he was batting at 4 or below

Krunal has been consistent for 2-3 yrs in IPL

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Batting is no contest. Fielding is a no contest, he is as good as Jadeja in the field and I am sure he can dart an over or 2. If not those overs can be squeezed from some other part timer 

everyone can dart even kohli but if u knw variation of length n pace which krunal n imad knws ull get wkts to . It isnt as easy as ur making it sound 

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

whats the point of that stock outswinger when he bowls it on leg

Yes he is good in indian condition but only in indian condition.....why does he goes to overseas in squad despite being bang below avg for ages

saini is damn fit

whats the point of fitness when he bowls it on legs 

In Fc games a lot of wkts are being wkts by spinners and delhi has a very good attack so wkts get shared

 

just like vinay kumar has whose name u mention

who will watch the skill ......

Selection job isnt that easy that u wake up n see stats ....u need to see skill set and sometimes even ignore the numbers

I will take Umesh over Saini as of today.You keep repeating youself , Umesh goes to overseas because you cannot have two different squads.It is not your whim , these are real people.

 

Don't make Saini into Steyn, he is not that great that he has to be selected over other players who are currently playing.He has to wait for his chance end of the story.He got his chance today and did zip so he  and his followers need to shut up and let him work harder

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I will take Umesh over Saini as of today.You keep repeating youself , Umesh goes to overseas because you cannot have two different squads.It is not your whim , these are real people.

Why not ?Ideally we shud give up on umesh at home to now since we have bumrah n shami 

Good he is dropped now

U need all condition players .....what better way to get in youngsters in home series where spinners win u games

 

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Don't make Saini into Steyn, he is not that great that he has to be selected over other players who are currently playing.He has to wait for his chance end of the story.He got his chance today and did zip so he  and his followers need to shut up and let him work harder

Steyn wudnt have become had he waited till 28-29 for a debut 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[SecondSlip]

I think most of the squad picks itself for the T20 World Cup: 

 

1. Rohit Sharma
2. Shikhar Dhawan
3. Virat Kohli (C) 
4. Shreyas Iyer
5. Rishabh Pant (WK) 
6. Hardik Pandya 
7. Ravindra Jadeja 
8. Deepak Chahar 
9. Bhuvneshwar Kumar 
10. Kuldeep Yadav 
11. Jasprit Bumrah

 

12. KL Rahul 
13. Yuzvendra Chahal 
14. Ishan Kishan (WK) 
15. MIDDLE ORDER BATSMAN 

 

I don’t know who that middle order batsman will be

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

I think most of the squad picks itself for the T20 World Cup: 

 

1. Rohit Sharma
2. Shikhar Dhawan
3. Virat Kohli (C) 
4. Shreyas Iyer
5. Rishabh Pant (WK) 
6. Hardik Pandya 
7. Ravindra Jadeja 
8. Deepak Chahar 
9. Bhuvneshwar Kumar 
10. Kuldeep Yadav 
11. Jasprit Bumrah

 

12. KL Rahul 
13. Yuzvendra Chahal 
14. Ishan Kishan (WK) 
15. MIDDLE ORDER BATSMAN 

 

I don’t know who that middle order batsman will be

Manish Pandey 

[putrevus]

22 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Even Steyn was a 135 k bowler in tests

Who bowls 150 k deliveries all day long in tests?

Did you ever watch him bowl in Ranji in last two years and last year Vijay Hazare trophy?

He was pick of the bowlers,just dont rush yourself to make an opinion based on such small sample size

I am not rushing into anything.Why are you people rushing into making him an all format bowler.Yes I watched highlights of Saini in Ranjis, have you watched Vinay Kumar in Ranjis.Ranji batsmen couldn't put bat when Vinay kumar was bowling for couple of seasons where he was leading Karnataka to all domestic championships, he was that good in Ranjis.This was after he was dropped from test team.

 

Saini is getting his chance in T20s let him deliver here first.Now we have come to stage where we are complaining about giving chances also.

 

Is he better than Ishant, Shami or Bumrah answer is no , when there is a chance he will get his chance why do you want to play all formats without him doing anything in the format he has been selected.

[putrevus]

42 minutes ago, bahubali said:

But captain saheb said when other team playing batsmen till down the 9 th down we should also do that. Isn't he who was in selection meeting and selected this team.

If he did select this putrid squad then it is all his fault.I hope this moron learns that nothing is won by bits and pieces players.

[Suhaan]

45 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I am not rushing into anything.Why are you people rushing into making him an all format bowler.Yes I watched highlights of Saini in Ranjis, have you watched Vinay Kumar in Ranjis.Ranji batsmen couldn't put bat when Vinay kumar was bowling for couple of seasons where he was leading Karnataka to all domestic championships, he was that good in Ranjis.This was after he was dropped from test team.

 

Saini is getting his chance in T20s let him deliver here first.Now we have come to stage where we are complaining about giving chances also.

 

Is he better than Ishant, Shami or Bumrah answer is no , when there is a chance he will get his chance why do you want to play all formats without him doing anything in the format he has been selected.

So do you justify playing same xi even against weak opposition?

No one is saying him to be replacing Ishant ,Shami or any 1st choice pacer,but atleast he should have been tried against SL,Ban last year at home

If any newcomer fails to impress in his first few t20s ,how  should he be dealt with?

What do you reckon

Why are you misinterpreting  the whole thing?

So if he does well you will compare him with some other bowler?

Are they both from same age bracket?

Whats the point of toiling hard in domestics then ,if you'll only get compared with some random past failures,so should we close our eyes and wait for miracles to happen ?

Edited September 22, 2019 by Suhaan

[Cricwala]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

TM has selected Shardul few times  and ppl say kohli has the eye for fast bowlers when he cudnt see a guy in his franchise destroying A teams last year 

Actually you are right..Kohli has a slightly unjustified reputation for handling quicks well. He pretty much inherited a decent pace unit - ishant, shami, umesh and bhuvi. Ishant & Shami improved their fitness and consistency on own due to county (Gillespie) and conditioning coach (basu). Bumrah  is a once in a generation player hard to ignore - kudos to kohli and shastri for fast-tracking him into tests. But kohli has often been guilty of setting reactive fields for his pacers, especially in slips where he follows the ball. And with 2nd rung pacers like siraj etc he's been indifferent. In ODIs too, he has shown Dhoniesque safety first approach by choosing bhuvi over red-hot Shami. Kohli is definitely better captain of fast bowling than Dhoni, but that ain't saying much

Edited September 22, 2019 by Cricwala

[ShoonyaSifar]

A drawn series vs SA B team missing so many regulars. Great achievement by Kohli.

 

Maybe if the captain, coach, batting coach and chief selector focused on building a team instead of abusing a young player, team would have done better.

 

While they targeted Pant, others youngsters would read between the lines as well. Was so sad to see body language of Pant, Iyer, Krunal, Sundar. Insecurity everywhere. 

[Cricwala]

56 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Umesh goes to overseas because you cannot have two different squads.It is not your whim , these are real people.

What are you on about? We have always had different bowling squads for home and away series. Even at home, Umesh is rarely leader of pack against strong teams, so his time as an overseas pick is definitely over if TM and selectors have sense. Umesh never developed the mental nous required to work batsmen out (he is a guy who would have benefited largely with a good bowling coach like Troy Cooley, Gillespie), but indian cricket is still grateful to him for bringing fast bowling and good fitness culture

[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

Really feel for the spectators out here, who paid heavy price for the tickets, only to witness their home team getting thrashed completely, on a sunday night.

 

 

Nah they are used to see Kohli's team getting thrashed

[Ankit_sharma03]

40 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

Bumrah  is a once in a generation player hard to ignore - kudos to kohli and shastri for fast-tracking him into tests.

Cant be said fast tracking coz he was playing Fc for long n had done well in t20 n ODi so he deserved it

Fast tracking is something we did in case of pandya when he hadnt played to much FC 

40 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

Kohli is definitely better captain of fast bowling than Dhoni, but that ain't saying much

xactly........

[Cricwala]

Just looked at highlights, kohli didn't even consult pant while going for useless DRS review at Chahar's insistence! Ball was way down leg, no way Pant would have said yes if he was asked. As for why Pant didn't speak up, it's obvious the kid is now scared of making mistakes...to top it off, Kohli was grinning like an embarassed schoolkid, hiding his face behind his cap after the DRS - what a drama queen, just doesn't give the vibes of a level-headed, thinking, hard-nosed captain

Edited September 22, 2019 by Cricwala

[cricketfan28]

South Africa played very well.

[SK_IH]

News of these chutiyapas of Kohli bring great amount of mirth, I have become anti national