Hardik Pandya set for long injury lay-off due to lower back injury, which will keep him out for about five months

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Is it end of his career for Hardik.

he hasnt retired neither crossed age of 35

such injuries happen n players comeback 

 

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Coz stokes has more body of work as he has played more

Pandya is not utilty in LOI....he is a specialist 

similar example who remeber rohit n yuvraj singh struggle when they are used as example they are being told as legend

Pandya is a match winner with a bat no one can deny that, only diff is stokes bats at 5 

Pandya pace is high as stokes 

 

Clearly nothing seprates them in Batting, only diff is stokes batted higher yet poor record , bowling stokes is a lil ahead

 

I suggest u visit a stat side and learn analysis , coz u need a comman point while comparison. U can compare a body of work of 50 matches vs 100 ...rather see where both stood at 50 games

clearly then u lack knowledge about the role of power hitter which is specialist

batting at 7 doesnt make u bits n pieces.....what are u watching 

How do you measure or come up with a  time frame of by when someone evolves?

 

Just because player A broke out after 30 games doesn't mean that you give everyone 30 games to evolve. Pandya has been around for 3-4 years. Stokes has been around for 4-5 years. 

 

Stokes despite having that disastrous WT20 final with the ball was backed because he also had that 260 vs SA in SA against a world class bowling attack and a 100 vs Australia against a rampaging Johnson and co. All within 2-3 years of his debut. He also has 100's and 5 wicket hauls in the first 1-2 years of his debut as well. However you could see him get better every year in front of our eyes.

 

Pandya despite being around for 3 years and being a regular in all 3 formats we are still talking about him evolving. Evolving as what? can we trust him to bat at 4-5? can he be our 2nd fast bowler say if we decide to play a 2 pace+2 spin combo on a pitch? what can we trust him with?

 

Stokes can be banned from bowling for a year and still he will be the first name on the sheet. Same goes for Shakib. 

 

Guys like Cummins,Starc,Woakes are leagues ahead as allrounders than Pandya.

 

The only guys I can think who are in Pandya's league are Imad Wasim, Grandhomme,Neesham,Russell, Brathwaite.Those are utility cricketers not allrounders

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 minutes ago, maniac said:

How do you measure or come up with a  time frame of by when someone evolves?

 

Just because player A broke out after 30 games doesn't mean that you give everyone 30 games to evolve. Pandya has been around for 3-4 years. Stokes has been around for 4-5 years. 

A player evolves with time n Opp

Take rohit n yuvi example- took more then 5 yrs n 80+ games and more importantly a promotion in batting order

 

No young player can perform like veteran

Lets not forget stokes had his very shitty days 

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Stokes despite having that disastrous WT20 final with the ball was backed because he also had that 260 vs SA in SA against a world class bowling attack and a 100 vs Australia against a rampaging Johnson and co. All within 2-3 years of his debut. He also has 100's and 5 wicket hauls in the first 1-2 years of his debut as well. However you could see him get better every year in front of our eyes.

2-3 yrs is diff from playing 11 test 

and pandya didnt get better ?

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Pandya despite being around for 3 years and being a regular in all 3 formats we are still talking about him evolving. Evolving as what? can we trust him to bat at 4-5? can he be our 2nd fast bowler say if we decide to play a 2 pace+2 spin combo on a pitch? what can we trust him with?

 

Fact check when pandya got promotion at no.4 he won MOS against Aus 

The reason he doesnt n cant get promotion becoz we dont have a lower order hitter like him 

 

if we decide tp play 2+2 he wud play as 3rd seamer.....and he has done that n done well 

We have been trusting him.....u dnt trust him that a diff question

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Stokes can be banned from bowling for a year and still he will be the first name on the sheet. Same goes for Shakib. 

Again look at the number of games these guys have played

If i show u shakib stats after 11 test na ull call him garbage cricketer 

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Guys like Cummins,Starc,Woakes are leagues ahead as allrounders than Pandya.

Still cummins n starc are not played as all rounders ....when they can play with 5 bowler if they have 2

Starc has failed to keep his place as bowler only in test recently

woakes will struggle in most condition to keep his place as bowler only 

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The only guys I can think who are in Pandya's league are Imad Wasim, Grandhomme,Neesham,Russell, Brathwaite.Those are utility cricketers not allrounders 

all these guys are permanents in their LOI side- specially neesham, russell 

Cummins, starc, woakes cant be considered as all rounder in LOI...

Edited October 1, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Vilander]

5 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

end of his career for Hardik.

 

He had that fatal back issue that day.post surgery only very few players can be successful.

I think his international cricket days could be over.

 

[Khota]

I hope he recovers quickly and works on one aspect of the game.

[Khota]

21 hours ago, maniac said:

That's the kind of logic and justification I find amusing for Pandya. He scores only cameos because he is No.7 and his medicore average for a bowler is justified because he is a fifth bowler. Now that's the problem I have been harping on since the beginning.

 

When someone can only bat at 7 and only be the 5th bowler that is the definition of bits and pieces.

 

 

 

 

And keeps you guessing who will show up. he is the worst bowler and is a safety vent for the opposition.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Khota

[Straight Drive]

Guess this is his 3rd injury in last year and a half.

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Guess this is his 3rd injury in last year and a half.

It's the same injury that has been flaring up.

[coffee_rules]

Pathloon ki tarah hain, lakdi ki tarah todta rahega.

[jf1gp_1]

Shankar is one lucky chap 

[Frustrated]

One of the most brittle all-rounders to hv played for india. Having him in the team is like going one step forward and two steps backwards. One can Never predict what's next.   He broke down in the middle of a crucial Ind-Pak match in Asia cup 2018. And never came back for next 6 months.  And then broke down (temporarily) during Ind-Nz SF WC match. All this despite being out of international cricket for half the year.      No offence to him, but this is what happens when one has grown up by eating too much maggi in his childhood days. LOL.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Frustrated

[Straight Drive]

I doubt he will be able to play even 30 tests due to fitness issues. He made test debit in July 2017 and has played just 11 tests in 26 months. I think team India plays about 11 tests in average per year.

[putrevus]

Hope he recovers soon, he is a must for T20 side.He needs to improve his batting more to become a batsman who bowls.Back Injury is always scary thing.

[bowl_out]

He is a great asset in ODIs and T20s. Should just focus on LoIs when he recovers and let Test cricket go. 

[Nikola]

Not good for test cricket. Should look to invest in specialist players instead till we get better all rounder.