raki05 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: in t20 his n even kaul, bhuvi all these guys speeds are up coz they have to bowl only 4 overs yup i think he ll do better in australia .....dnt forget praveen kumar, kulasekra has also done well in Aus who were slower then chahar Aus wkts will help him more then indian wkts where he has done well Praveen kulasekra has all succeed due to their novelty factor....Finch, Warner and most other eng hacks especially waits for these kind of slow bowlers on flat pitches. I have full trust that these hacks will absolutely murder these trundlers, it's not eng where swing and seam LL save you.
vaul Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Sanju Samson 142 t20 matches ; 27.48 avg ; 126.48 avg Does he look good top order batsman in any way ? Shivam Dube has not scored a single fifty in 19 t20 matches ;In IPL only managed to score 40 runs in 4 matches with s/r of 121.21 Both these players with mediocre performances got selected.It looks Kohli will allow any batsman except Gill.
SK_IH Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 What about this Khaleel? A run of the mill bowler without any exceptional skills. Is he still getting picked because he is a left armer? No other left arm options available? @rkt.india @Mosher @express bowling Sgattick10 1
rkt.india Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, SK_IH said: What about this Khaleel? A run of the mill bowler without any exceptional skills. Is he still getting picked because he is a left armer? No other left arm options available? @rkt.india @Mosher @express bowling I think he does have potential, but needs right guidance. I hope he stays miles away from Zak.
SK_IH Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I think he does have potential, but needs right guidance. I hope he stays miles away from Zak. He may have potential but international cricket is not the platform to hone your skills. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, SK_IH said: What about this Khaleel? A run of the mill bowler without any exceptional skills. Is he still getting picked because he is a left armer? No other left arm options available? @rkt.india @Mosher @express bowling I don't think we should run after left arm pacers ... and pick one only if he is one of the best pacers available. Unfortunately, Khaleel is the best left armer available now. He has potential but needs to play a lot of FC to become a ready bowler. SK_IH, Mosher and Cricketics 1 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, raki05 said: Praveen kulasekra has all succeed due to their novelty factor....Finch, Warner and most other eng hacks especially waits for these kind of slow bowlers on flat pitches. I have full trust that these hacks will absolutely murder these trundlers, it's not eng where swing and seam LL save you. shudnt categorize all in same......wasnt only novelity they had swing n auss pitches provided pace n bounce to them so they became more threatening chahar has that swing that can counter finch, warner n all .......n say whatever that new ball will swing might only for few over but it will specially under lights . Even in early days when bhuvis pace wasnt that much he always did well in t20 Edited October 24, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03
Forward Defence Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, vaul said: Sanju Samson 142 t20 matches ; 27.48 avg ; 126.48 avg Does he look good top order batsman in any way ? Shivam Dube has not scored a single fifty in 19 t20 matches ;In IPL only managed to score 40 runs in 4 matches with s/r of 121.21 Both these players with mediocre performances got selected.It looks Kohli will allow any batsman except Gill. Samson has consistency issues but he is sublime when in touch. Not many domestic players have scored multiple IPL hundreds. Dube is a lower order bat and hence doesn't get to face too many balls in T20s. His list A strike rates are a fair indication of his big hitting talent. His bowling abilities add an extra facet to his game although it remains to be seen if it is good enough for international standards. Gill is a proper batsman and will probably end up having the longest career amongst the three, but in my opinion it will be better to introduce him in tests or Odi's. With Rohit,Shikhar,Virat,KL and Iyer as proper batsmen in the squad we hardly have any more room for technically correct assured batsmanship in T20s. We need big hitting allrounders(Dube) or wk-batsmen(Pant,Samson).
Mosher Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SK_IH said: What about this Khaleel? A run of the mill bowler without any exceptional skills. Is he still getting picked because he is a left armer? No other left arm options available? @rkt.india @Mosher @express bowling Other left arm options are Khejroliya and Sran. Khejroliya is a decent talent and can be tried in T20's. Sran had a good start to his T20 career albeit against Zim but then don't know what happened. He is out of the selector's radar now. Yarra Prithviraj is another good prospect. Tall left arm pacer can bowl 140kph. Edited October 24, 2019 by Mosher SK_IH and express bowling 2
Cricketics Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, velu said: manish pandey in T20 is a joke .. @Cricketics bowls faster and better than shradul I endorse the two comments. The latter is more important. Mariyam, saik and express bowling 3
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 instead of manish pandey we shud have tried either of kishen, sky or rana........we have enough options for top order we need to look for players middle n lower middle order option who can score quickly velu 1
bowl_out Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Good samson dube No jadeja kohli rested Bad No saini- cant give up on him so soon Shardul - really manish pandey dhawan Also why two leggies Chahal and R Chahar? They could have got Gowtham instead.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bowl_out said: Also why two leggies Chahal and R Chahar? They could have got Gowtham instead. then it wud have been 2 off spinners as sundar is already there
bowl_out Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: instead of manish pandey we shud have tried either of kishen, sky or rana........we have enough options for top order we need to look for players middle n lower middle order option who can score quickly Not a fan of Manish in T20s, but he is coming from a great Vijay Hazare season and our selectors always use performance in 50-over games to pick players for T20s
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bowl_out said: Not a fan of Manish in T20s, but he is coming from a great Vijay Hazare season and our selectors always use performance in 50-over games to pick players for T20s he has been in t20 side before VH even in IPL he did well this year when he batted at 3...not below . We need players after that
bowl_out Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: then it wud have been 2 off spinners as sundar is already there But contribute to lower order batting as well
Amit228 Posted October 24, 2019 Posted October 24, 2019 Manish pandey would have been a better choice in odi at no 4 or 5.. his list A exploits in A series and vijay hazare trophy is there for all to see. However he doesn't merit selection in t20s.. as usual selectors picking wrong people in wrong format.. iam even apprehensive about shreyas iyer in t20s.. although he possesses enough firepower.. he has nvr utilised his true potential.. Hopefully Samson performs well nd cements his place.. he is the next best puller of cricket ball we have after Rohit Sharma Nd really good on dube too. However if he really want to prove himself an alternative to hardik pandya's imperative role as an all-rounder than he needs to work on his bowling too. He can match pandya's hitting ability.. but in bowling he leaves much to be desired..
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