Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 I do think kohli is a better ODI batsman but had sachin played today his stats wud have been very different in a higher way But when it comes to WC in ODI sachin is miles ahead of Kohli , kohli is yet to have one outstanding ODI wc
putrevus Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: If you considered only top 8 sides, Kohli looks even worse compared to Sachin. We will even go into the kind of bowlers they faced. In WCs, Kohli 673 runs@42 vs Sachin's 1397 runs@49 In tournament finals, 154 runs@22, vs Sachin's 1627 runs@49 Total tournament knockouts (finals, SFs, QFs), 247 runs@22 vs Sachin's 2130 runs@47 That record will make even a tailender proud. Better player than Kohli, yeah right Sachin never did well against good bowlers in his career away from home. We know it took 2008 for him to score an away 100 vs Australia and 2009 vs NZ and He has single away 100s against SENA countries .Kohli pretty much scored multiple 100s vs every team home and away. World cups Sachin got more chances as he is an opener otherwise their record is same. Kohli averages 88 in ICC champions trophy vs 36 for Sachin. Kohli played very few mutli nation tournaments in his career where as Sachin's career was full of 3 and 4 nation tournaments thats why Sachin has more runs in finals. Kohli does not need any performance to prove his superiority over Sachin, it is not even a comparision.Sachin is not even in the same ball park as Kohli in odis.
Deleted_User_1 Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 On 11/23/2019 at 7:32 PM, sourab10forever said: Kohli at 43 from 230 innings. Tendu at 49 from 452 innings. 6 centuries more required in 22 innings to beat him to it with 200 innings lesser. Can he do it? Yes, he still does not have a backfoot game against pace.
Bublu Bhuyan Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 If only he could do something in ICC KO matches. 1 vs Aus (SF, 2015 WC), 1 vs Pak (CT Final, 2017), 1 vs NZ (SF, 2019 WC).
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 He has text book construction of a ODI innings. He picks the right moment to accelerate especially while chasing.
R!TTER Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He has text book construction of a ODI innings. He picks the right moment to accelerate especially while chasing. Too bad he chokes at the wrong right moment as well Stan AF, sergio04 and raki05 3
vvvslaxman Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Too bad he chokes at the wrong right moment as well Eventually when we play a team in the semi final that doesn't have a left arm seamer and when we don't chase he will click :) Remember in CT 2013 final there was no left arm bowler
ShoonyaSifar Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 13 hours ago, putrevus said: Sachin never did well against good bowlers in his career away from home. We know it took 2008 for him to score an away 100 vs Australia and 2009 vs NZ and He has single away 100s against SENA countries .Kohli pretty much scored multiple 100s vs every team home and away. World cups Sachin got more chances as he is an opener otherwise their record is same. Kohli averages 88 in ICC champions trophy vs 36 for Sachin. Kohli played very few mutli nation tournaments in his career where as Sachin's career was full of 3 and 4 nation tournaments thats why Sachin has more runs in finals. Kohli does not need any performance to prove his superiority over Sachin, it is not even a comparision.Sachin is not even in the same ball park as Kohli in odis. Keep shifting the goalposts. Those WC and numbers in knockouts brutally expose Kohli's ODI stats. Not one good knock in finals even in one bloody tournament. raki05 1
Zero_Unit Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) On 11/24/2019 at 12:18 AM, Stan AF said: Yes. Non-question at this point. Question is how many will he hit in WC's... He usually leaves his balls at home during the world up. Hopefully remembers to pack them this time around ... Edited January 4, 2020 by Zero_Unit Stan AF, raki05 and Pratik77 3
R!TTER Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Zero_Unit said: He usually leaves his balls at home during the world up. Hopefully remembers to pack them this time around ... Wow that's a serious hit to the raki05 and Zero_Unit 2
adi B Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 I have said it before as well on icf ,had sachin played in this era (after 2010) ,he would have averaged in the 50s for sure and striking close to 95 . This is the most easiest era for odi batsmen, especially openers ! 2 new ball has made it even easier in the middle overs . Stan AF 1
Nonbeliever Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, adi B said: I have said it before as well on icf ,had sachin played in this era (after 2010) ,he would have averaged in the 50s for sure and striking close to 95 . This is the most easiest era for odi batsmen, especially openers ! 2 new ball has made it even easier in the middle overs . Even dhawan is striking close to 95, better then Jayasuriya(91)almost equal to adam Gilchrist. Gives a clear idea how easy things are now. Even ponting and Hayden had strike rate of 80. Player like root is averaging over 50. Edited January 4, 2020 by Nonbeliever raki05, Stan AF, Cricspin and 1 other 1 3
rtmohanlal Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Sachin averaged 47.62 @87.81 str: and scored 16335 runs once he started to open till 2011 Mar 30. He scored 48 100s in this phase. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;spanmax1=30+Mar+2011;spanmin1=27+mar+1994;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting Roughly Sachin played thru the 90s & 2000s . 40 avg: was the yardstick for greatness in 90s . In 2010s it is 50 . So even if 45 is assumed to be the measure of greatness in 2000s, the yard stick to evaluate Sachin would be (40+45) /2 = 42.5 Based on that Sachin's average in the 2010s would be roughly 47.62*50/42.5 = 56 with str: in the 90s. Add Sachin's vastly superior record in WCs combined with the added pressure of expectations he had to cope up with, Sachin still is the better ODI batsman for me. Would wait till the next WC to even think of a comparison. raki05 and Stan AF 1 1
R!TTER Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: Would wait till the next WC to even think of a comparison. Meh Kohli isn't exceeding SRT, that's straight from the top The only thing he can do is to lead a better team & hopefully win more series for us away, especially tests in SA, Eng.
raki05 Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Nonbeliever said: Even dhawan is striking close to 95, better then Jayasuriya(91)almost equal to adam Gilchrist. Gives a clear idea how easy things are now. Even ponting and Hayden had strike rate of 80. Player like root is averaging over 50. Even gobar Azam is averaging 54..... Ever since Rohit started opening aching 55. Warner, root, Taylor all are hovering around 50. Edited January 4, 2020 by raki05 Nonbeliever, Stan AF and Aiden 1 1 1
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