Is Rishabh Pant the Afridi of Indian team ?

[Sachinism]

38 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

the same guy who cudnt score in australia is better then who has a 100 in australia 

hold on such remarks as pant career has just begun

LOL nice choice of metric for this comparison.

Raina performed his role like a boss. Gave the innings impetuous and pushed the opposition on the back foot. 

[Amit228]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

but thats his game n role

If rohit takes time we have problem with that 

If pant goes bang bang from ball -1 wo bhi problem

 

Chahiye kya 

the diff is pant will get better and be a match winner .....this is an investment phase. umesh will not be that batsman ever and afridi was good until he stopped working hard on batting

 

Guys like Rohit, yuvi took 5-6 years , have some patience. he is just 21 and players take time to evolve.  u dnt get readymade players 

Will get better is purely a funky wish for now.. it's not cent percent certain that he will get better..  i hope he gets better.. but the way he is getting out of late will make lord dotendra fans go full on shouting their lungs out to include him in coming t20 world cup..  their is reason why that "khelo dimag se" hasn't retired yet..  i just shudder at imagination of wht it will do India's fate at t20 world cup after lord thala makes he ways into team with him bludgeoning unadcutters & dhawals in the IPL.. the more pant is failing.. more the chance of marvels of thala encore is rising exponentially.. nightmare of a scenario.

[Gollum]

Give him an extended run, but play another keeper like Sanju in the XI...pretty sure we can accommodate both these kids, let there be healthy competition. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Amit228 said:

Will get better is purely a funky wish for now.. it's not cent percent certain that he will get better.. 

It aint a wish thts hows most cricketer progress

4 minutes ago, Amit228 said:

i hope he gets better.. but the way he is getting out of late will make lord dotendra fans go full on shouting their lungs out to include him in coming t20 world cup..  their is reason why that "khelo dimag se" hasn't retired yet..  i just shudder at imagination of wht it will do India's fate at t20 world cup after lord thala makes he ways into team with him bludgeoning unadcutters & dhawals in the IPL.. the more pant is failing.. more the chance of marvels of thala encore is rising exponentially.. nightmare of a scenario.

Either it ll pant approach or thala

Even kishen will be inconsistent n he is even a poor keeper

Samson is inconsistent on all levels

Bacha dk

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 minutes ago, Sachinism said:

LOL nice choice of metric for this comparison.

Raina performed his role like a boss. Gave the innings impetuous and pushed the opposition on the back foot. 

Not consistently specially in his 1st term which ended up him being dropped .

If he batted like boss consitently he wud have been in team and he failed in aus thats a reality

[Sachinism]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Not consistently specially in his 1st term which ended up him being dropped .

If he batted like boss consitently he wud have been in team and he failed in aus thats a reality

OK in that case Pant succeeded in Aus and failed everywhere else?

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Sachinism said:

OK in that case Pant succeeded in Aus and failed everywhere else?

U cant term such a short career as failure...do that at ur own risk

[Suhaan]

A part of pressure on Pant is self imposed

[Amit228]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

It aint a wish thts hows most cricketer progress

Either it ll pant approach or thala

Even kishen will be inconsistent n he is even a poor keeper

Samson is inconsistent on all levels

Bacha dk

Their could be a Rohit or virat approach in between wen it comes to six hitting.. it doesn't always hv to be two extreme ends of spectrum.. a la dot balls eater thala & wild slogging pant

We hv to try samson to see wht he can do in international cricket... pant inclusion should not be a certain occurrence like sun & moon.. there should be a competition for his place.. & his atrocious keeping isn't also boding well & benign for him.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Amit228 said:

Their could be a Rohit or virat approach in between wen it comes to six hitting.. it doesn't always hv to be two extreme ends of spectrum.. a la dot balls eater thala & wild slogging pant

U think rohit figured out his approach at start it took him 5-6 yrs and opening position

Those 2 bat in top 3 best position in loi

Just now, Amit228 said:

We hv to try samson to see wht he can do in international cricket... pant inclusion should not be a certain occurrence like sun & moon.. there should be a competition for his place.. & his atrocious keeping isn't also boding well & benign for him.

Samson inconsistency n not keeping in domestic doesnt help his case. Neways if u cant back pant properly then u cant back anyone. Look how wi has backed hetymer....the guy has been in such **** form for an year now

[Amit228]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

U think rohit figured out his approach at start it took him 5-6 yrs and opening position

Those 2 bat in top 3 best position in loi

Samson inconsistency n not keeping in domestic doesnt help his case. Neways if u cant back pant properly then u cant back anyone. Look how wi has backed hetymer....the guy has been in such **** form for an year now

Pant has got enuff backing.. nd will surely get so ahead also considering team management trust in his abilities.. 

However even his wicket keeping also is getting affected by his loss of form with bat... & For samson's inconsistency.. now pant isn't any far greater consistent when it comes to batting & wktkeeping... so variable is same for pant & samson.. we hv to try samson to see wht he brings to the table in international cricket.. pant meanwhile can try getting his mojo back

[SecondSlip]

Rishabh Pant is a brainless hack. He barely has any shots in his armoury, so relies on wild hoicks like a tailender to score boundaries. 
 

Whenever he is at the crease, you can just tell that he is about get dismissed any minute. He never gives confidence to us fans that he will score big runs. 
 

I don’t want Dhoni anywhere near the Indian team but his blind haters have really rated Pant much higher than what his real value is. 

[nevada]

3 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

Rishabh Pant is a brainless hack. He barely has any shots in his armoury, so relies on wild hoicks like a tailender to score boundaries. 
 

Whenever he is at the crease, you can just tell that he is about get dismissed any minute. He never gives confidence to us fans that he will score big runs. 
 

I don’t want Dhoni anywhere near the Indian team but his blind haters have really rated Pant much higher than what his real value is. 

This is very true in LOIs. But still, this guy has 2 100s in SENA and 2 near centuries in India in test cricket. I wonder how the heck he did that.

But on recent form or lack thereof, the bigger picture is that from extremely bullish, his backers are now moving to the concerned but still optimistic camp about his prospects. 

[maniac]

13 minutes ago, nevada said:

This is very true in LOIs. But still, this guy has 2 100s in SENA and 2 near centuries in India in test cricket. I wonder how the heck he did that.

But on recent form or lack thereof, the bigger picture is that from extremely bullish, his backers are now moving to the concerned but still optimistic camp about his prospects. 

I had hopes for Kishen too but he seems very odd with his stroke play too like Pant. Not very assured.

 

Samson looks the best of the lot but his keeping may be average compared to the other 2

 

Should make Rahul keep for LOI's. He is not that bad.

[nevada]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

I had hopes for Kishen too but he seems very odd with his stroke play too like Pant. Not very assured.

 

Samson looks the best of the lot but his keeping may be average compared to the other 2

 

Should make Rahul keep for LOI's. He is not that bad.

Kishan is even worse. He can whack the spinners but that's it. Pant thrashes even pace bowlers but only in IPL it seems. Sanju is a flatter to deceive type. 1-2 good innings followed by disappointment time after time. Rahul is a realistic and decent option. Hope it doesn't impact his batting, though. 

[Amit228]

Rahul, Rohit, virat today were plain exceptional.. such staggering display of six hitting derived from timing, placement & balance.. then comes pant with his intent full sans substance & execution derived from blind slogging.. 

 

Pant batting among Rohit,virat & kl comes across a la piece of elaichi amidst a plate full of lip smacking biryani.. 

[velu]

TM should give him chances in tests to establish himself in the team ..

he cant slog from ball 1 like raina or uv

 

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, velu said:

TM should give him chances in tests to establish himself in the team ..

he cant slog from ball 1 like raina or uv

 

With the kind of stretching he does just to connnect the ball he could pull a muscle soon. He doesn't worry about getting into position one bit. He just gets into wrong positions and plays wrong shots. We played him as a specialist bat in the world cup.

[putrevus]

I don't think he has enough shots all around the wicket.He is just hoicking it to leg side.Does he have power to all sides of wicket, he got caught on ball which he should have hit for 6.

[maniac]

3 hours ago, shortbread said:

Young Umar Akmal more like!

 

India needs to hone a plan B, so that if Pant's struggle is prolonged then they have someone with decent exposure ready to step in. In such 'not very important' bilateral tournaments, its best to experiment with other options.

 

Kohli is insistent on doing his Delhi buddy a favour, this could hurt the team come the World Cup.

 

Also by plan B, I mean other youngsters, not Dhoni.

That is actually a very good comparison. Umar Akmal when he came on to the scene had some raw ability the way he played guys like Bond, Johnson etc showed that. Instead of building on it and working on it he regressed and became a hack and tried to smack the leather off of everything.

 

Pant is going the same way right now.

 

However one hope is Pant has a much better work ethic than Duckmal. Let's hope he improves.