KL Rahul was always the best choice for No.4 if only he was persisted with

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

KL Rahul is in the Rohit Sharma mould. He's better suited at the top of the order where he has more time as compared to the middle order. People will create threads immediately after a match where one does well and give excuses when they have a string of failures.

Edited January 17, 2020 by TNAmarkFromIndia

[express bowling]

Rahul bats at a poor SR while opening in ODIs.

 

He was doing very well in the middle order in the WC 2019 ... before Dhawan was injured and he was sent at the top.

 

Now ... with Rohit injured ... the worst thing would be to send Rahul at the top again.

 

This weakens the middle order ... and does not allow Rahul to settle down at any spot, because he will be send down again when Rohit is back 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 17, 2020 by express bowling

[kohli]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Everybody's getting excited and I get it.

 

But people have forgotten how much of a poor starter KL is against decent spin.  That's why he's much better suited as ODI opener as opposed to #4.  

Opner or lower order is perfect for him. Not number 3 or 4

[gakgupta]

Everybody's getting excited and I get it.
 
But people have forgotten how much of a poor starter KL is against decent spin.  That's why he's much better suited as ODI opener as opposed to #4.  

Agarwal is the only batsmen who is better than Rahul when playing spin....

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[TNAmarkFromIndia]

46 minutes ago, express bowling said:

He was doing very well in the middle order in the WC 2019 ... before Dhawan was injured and he was sent at the top.

Now ... with Rohit injured ... the worst thing would be to send Rahul at the top again.

Rahul is a mental midget though. Don't see him doing well in the middle order. He probably likes the fact that he has more time at the top.

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Rahul bats at a poor SR while opening in ODIs.

 

I think he did that because he feels the pressure to stack up big 100s to justify himself as ODI Opener.  Dhawan and Rohit do that regularly, while Rahane failed to do it when he was given a run as opener.  KL is much better suited to opening than later in the order - he is very, VERY tentative against spin early in his innings. 

[Vilander]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

I feel we should bring in Gill, Shaw and Mayank too in the ODI setup.

this. why is this not done. 

 

Just fill the next gen top order into the middle. 

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, gakgupta said:

Agarwal is the only batsmen who is better than Rahul when playing spin....

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i think agarwal and even Gill/Shaw might be better. Rahul has weakness against spin.

[coffee_rules]

He is a natural opener, cant fit him with Rohot and Dhawan in top order. He is good at 5 because he was in a T20 situation on a flat pitch. No need to slot him there. He is a utility player. Dhawan plays well in India and fails abroad except Eng. How long do we persist with him? Shresyas Iyer needs more chances. Pandey/Jadhav are at end of the rope with the former pipping because of age. Lets hop Shreyas Iyer gets to become the next Raina if not Yuvraj.

[bowl_out]

15 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Talking about how TM handles a player 

 

 

But Dhawan Rohit Kohli will not play in any other spot

[GautiMaan]

Mayank should have opened in WC sf and Rahul should have been left at the no;4 spot where he scored a century,instead the muddleheads in the TM played 3 Wicketkeepers in the match,how each of them escaped unscathed from that farce is a mystery

[bhakum20]

16 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

The moment someone bats well in India, we try to bat him in the top 3 ... or not play him at all.  This happens at every level ... even in state teams.

 

And that's why we lose crunch matches the moment there is a top order collapse.

 

Dhoni won so many tournaments because he understood the importance of having a strong lower middle order in LOIs, where he himself batted.

it’s like a caste system isn’t it. If you’re in the middle order you’re considered doing dirty work

[express bowling]

36 minutes ago, GautiMaan said:

Mayank should have opened in WC sf and Rahul should have been left at the no;4 spot where he scored a century,

 

Exactly  !

[express bowling]

8 hours ago, sandeep said:

.  KL is much better suited to opening than later in the order - he is very, VERY tentative against spin early in his innings. 

 

Did not happen yesterday against Zampa and Agar. 

 

Players evolve after working on their weaknesses.

 

I would like to see Rahul at 5 or 4  for 10 ODI innings on the trot atleast 

 

If he comes good then we will have a finisher cum big hitter who is a proper batsman too and can stem the rot when it happens.

 

His ability to hit genuine quicks at the end is a big big plus.  

 

Rahul at 5 and Hardik at 6 can transform our last 10 overs in ODIs.

Edited January 18, 2020 by express bowling

[RAZPOR]

been saying that forever,shreyas is not half the player kl is.

[Lannister]

I think #5 in ODIs suits him well. With minimum competition for that spot, he should just be smart and adapt to that batting position. There's Agarwal and Shaw breathing down his neck for opening slot, while Shaw is still a youngster who is just going to get better. 

 

But there should be no compromise on his T20 batting position as an opener. He should make that clear to the team management. 

[express bowling]

21 minutes ago, Lannister said:

I think #5 in ODIs suits him well. With minimum competition for that spot, he should just be smart and adapt to that batting position. There's Agarwal and Shaw breathing down his neck for opening slot, while Shaw is still a youngster who is just going to get better. 

 

But there should be no compromise on his T20 batting position as an opener. He should make that clear to the team management. 

 

Agree with both points.

 

Rahul at ...

No 5 in ODIs

Opener in T20Is

 

Is ideal from the team point of view as well as his point of view.

[raki05]

12 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Rahul is a mental midget though. Don't see him doing well in the middle order. He probably likes the fact that he has more time at the top.

He just won you a match when series was at stake and playing such a class inning down the order. I think if he gets to bat in last 15 overs or first 15 overs he is very good coz he knows he has to play each balls to score , his only issue is batting in middle overs where he take extra caution and messed up by playing loose shots. Though he is the best bait at current crop coz he is not a slogger and has no issue against pace ballers.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, bowl_out said:

But Dhawan Rohit Kohli will not play in any other spot

cud have easily batted in middle long ago, they tried but changed within 1-3 games every time. He scored a 100 in Warmup game against Bang in Wc, played a crucial knock against SA in Wc game then played a cameo against Aus all in middle order. Has played for RCB in middle when he made four consecutive 50s and has a 100 at 4 in t20 international 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Sehwag- In international cricket u have to give everyone time. Even sachin, dhoni didnt become big time they were just names. They became big with time n perfomances. Same will happen with KL n Pant. When me n kaif came even we had 15 -15 off games , we took time and then we scored 50-100 after 10-10 games. Only very few will start performing from Day-1 but even they wont perform everyday till last day.