who is this guy Haider Ali? 19 years old?

[Autonomous]

45 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

Will be interesting to see how he does in ODIs.

Yeah.

 

Won't rate on basis of t20. 

 

His off-side play is very good (see U19 videos). But i think it was plan to target short boundary and lash it on the leg side with limited overs play. 

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Dube is a similar leg side hack with restrictive off side game like Haider, however Dube is quite ugly to watch. Haider is good to watch, superb bat swing.

This is what T20 does to you.

[Franco Vazquez]

Wouldn't last against good bowling attack

[SK_IH]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

This is what T20 does to you.

I don't think so. Good players play all round, even reverse sweeps. This usually happens to limited batsmen.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Pakistan shud use him at opening in both odi n t20....he ll use pp well. Why is babar opening in t20 . His role model is also rohit. Best place to bat in LOI is top 3

Edited September 2, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[nevada]

I think we should stop paying any attention to officially declared age. Interestingly, Pakistani players seem to age in reverse! There's the ageless wonder Afridi and currently, both Shoaib and Hafiz appear 3-4 years younger than their declared age. Maybe like reverse swing they reverse age!

[Straight Drive]

One innings is too much to say that they have found a gem. This is a poor England bowling lineup and the wickets are batting friendly where we have seen scores near to 200. 

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, SK_IH said:

I don't think so. Good players play all round, even reverse sweeps. This usually happens to limited batsmen.

Have you ever watched dravid, laxman play in T20? Two of the most stylish batsmen looked most ugly.

[SK_IH]

16 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Have you ever watched dravid, laxman play in T20? Two of the most stylish batsmen looked most ugly.

Have you ever watched Kohli, Rahul bat or even Warner in T20s. Their range enables them to be destructive & elegant at the same time.

Anyways the limited point made was lack of range & dragging everything on the leg side, not ugliness. It's a different fact altogether that Dube is ugly to watch apart from being limited batsman, irrespective of formats.

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

One innings is too much to say that they have found a gem. This is a poor England bowling lineup and the wickets are batting friendly where we have seen scores near to 200. 

This is poorest attack among all test/lois playing nations

He has a glaring weakness against short pitched bowling,but many players do have it and still have piled on runs

He has a great start to his career,lets see how he goes against top notch attacks in tests and odis as hype machinery in pakistan may have landed him on Uranus already

[Suhaan]

8 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Have you ever watched Kohli, Rahul bat or even Warner in T20s. Their range enables them to be destructive & elegant at the same time.

Anyways the limited point made was lack of range & dragging everything on the leg side, not ugliness. It's a different fact altogether that Dube is ugly to watch apart from being limited batsman, irrespective of formats.

If laxman,dravid were playing today they wouldn't have looked ugly anyway,the basic batting behaviour (gesture,style whatever) is always evident irrespective of the format you play,Dravid,Laxman would have started targetting cow corner in a ugly manner but that's about it,no way they'd look wierd (for their reputation)

[Franco Vazquez]

I have not seen him play in FC but in U19 WC he looked better than a hack

[Austin 3:!6]

Haidar Ali played U19 WC this year against us and batted well there too. However likes of Yasasvi Jaiswal totally outplayed him. The fact that Haidar Ali already made his debut for Pakistan and Jaiswal is not even in pipeline shows how difficult it is to break into current Indian team.

 

Anyway, good batsman this lad and mentioned on record that Rohit Sharma is his idol.

[Straight Drive]

3 hours ago, Suhaan said:

This is poorest attack among all test/lois playing nations

He has a glaring weakness against short pitched bowling,but many players do have it and still have piled on runs

He has a great start to his career,lets see how he goes against top notch attacks in tests and odis as hype machinery in pakistan may have landed him on Uranus already

Many cricketers are hyped and deemed to be flop on basis of good debut or bad one. He may do well even against better bowling teams and bowler friendly wickets in T20i (now bowler friendly wickets in T20i is rare with small boundaries and flat wickets), but its better to have atleast some sample size to conclude that he is a find.

 

 

[velu]

17 hours ago, maniac said:

I think 3-4 year age difference variance  is now acceptable for Pakistan players so I guess that qualifies him as alright. Even western commentators have given up on that

 

difference is 2 SD .. 

use standard deviation 

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, SK_IH said:

Have you ever watched Kohli, Rahul bat or even Warner in T20s. Their range enables them to be destructive & elegant at the same time.

Anyways the limited point made was lack of range & dragging everything on the leg side, not ugliness. It's a different fact altogether that Dube is ugly to watch apart from being limited batsman, irrespective of formats.

You need watch him out of IPl to judge his batting. 

[SK_IH]

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

You need watch him out of IPl to judge his batting. 

I ll be honest I haven't seen him bat much in domestic matches. But I have seen enough of him in international cricket apart from IPL to see he is a limited batsman who is easily troubled when the ball is out of his comfort zone.

[sandeep]

21 hours ago, speedheat said:

Looks 30

From what angle?  

[speedheat]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

From what angle?  

I was sarcastic 

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Haidar Ali played U19 WC this year against us and batted well there too. However likes of Yasasvi Jaiswal totally outplayed him.

Indian batsman have always been far more evolved n at diff level then pakistani batsman .

Haider ali is good but there are many better then him  whom we have