Cricketics Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Take out Shardul Thakur Mumbaikar from Indian team and take this Mumbaikar Despandey. He is so much better and has potential. IPL is perfect platform for him to sneak into India A team regularly and then hopefully indan LOI side. He just needs to work on his weight, looks a bit over weight and he will consistently bowl high pace. Great potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 Deshpande 4th over Wide Slower 140 142 142 139 Slower ... OUT Brilliant over under pressure ! Lots of accurate and quick yorkers. Cricketics, Forward Defence, speedheat and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Defence Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 One observation. Wood was quicker than Archer in the WC. Archer has been bowling really quick this IPL. Nortje has been even quicker this game. I wonder what Wood would have done. Maybe not 156 but will have been quick for sure. Starc is the only other bowler in this pace bracket. Would be interesting to see Fergusson and Stanlake's speeds if they get a look in. Mosher, speedheat and Suhaan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Forward Defence said: One observation. Wood was quicker than Archer in the WC. Archer has been bowling really quick this IPL. Nortje has been even quicker this game. I wonder what Wood would have done. Maybe not 156 but will have been quick for sure. Starc is the only other bowler in this pace bracket. Would be interesting to see Fergusson and Stanlake's speeds if they get a look in. Ferguson is a very good bowler but he is being wasted in KKR. He will surely hit 150kph. speedheat, Forward Defence, Hell Raiser and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Take out Shardul Thakur Mumbaikar from Indian team and take this Mumbaikar Despandey. He is so much better and has potential. IPL is perfect platform for him to sneak into India A team regularly and then hopefully indan LOI side. He just needs to work on his weight, looks a bit over weight and he will consistently bowl high pace. Great potential. Both Thakur and Deshpande are very short bowlers. You have to be really good to effective with that height and pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, rkt.india said: Both Thakur and Deshpande are very short bowlers. You have to be really good to effective with that height and pace. Thakur doesn’t have enough pace compared to Deshpandey. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rkt.india Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Thakur doesn’t have enough pace compared to Deshpandey. Both are in similar bracket of 136-142 k on their stock deliveries. We have several short fast/fast medium bowlers like these two than Mavi/Nagarkoti. They all are 5'9" or below. You need to be at least 6 like Saini and Siraj. So they will have to be really exceptional to be successful. I will put Prasidh and Kartik ahead of these 3 guys at this point. Saini ahead of them. Siraj has also looked good. Ankit Rajpoot who is tall has been disappointing. Avesh Khan another tall bloke but was disappointing. Khaleel also fairly tall has been patchy, but he is young and has potential. Would like to see RR drop Unadkat for Akash Singh. Edited October 14, 2020 by rkt.india Suhaan and tweaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Defence Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Unfortunately only one entry from an Indian bowler in the top 50 fastest balls this season. Saini @ 47 . But I must say the bowling today was exhilarating. Searing pace from Nortje and Archer. Quality from the seasoned Rabada. Promising stuff from Tyagi and Deshpande. Ashwin bowling like a pro. Other spinners doing decently too. Unadkat doubling his wickets tally in a matter of 3 balls was great too. speedheat, express bowling, Mosher and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Both are in similar bracket of 136-142 k on their stock deliveries. We have several short fast/fast medium bowlers like these two than Mavi/Nagarkoti. They all are 5'9" or below. You need to be at least 6 like Saini and Siraj. So they will have to be really exceptional to be successful. I will put Prasidh and Kartik ahead of these 3 guys at this point. Saini ahead of them. Siraj has also looked good. Ankit Rajpoot who is tall has been disappointing. Avesh Khan another tall bloke but was disappointing. Khaleel also fairly tall but has been patchy, but he is young and has potential. Would like to see Re drop Unadkat for Akash Singh. Yes, height is important but I won’t leave that as the only factor before dropping or picking a guy pike Deshpandey if he is consistently bowling in mid 140s in the near future. Yes, consistency will be the key if he is able to maintain that pace. 50 over game will better prove that or List A/FC games. Here during t20 games, player change up a lot of things based on how the pitch is playing and also mainly because they often have to bowl too much according to the plan as they are given the ball in short bursts of 1 over or two. Not the best way to judge a bowler but to get just an idea how quick he can get or if he has some potential. I liked how he was bowling yorkers. Thats good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeGaw Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Pure gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prudent_kreeda Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, express bowling said: These IPL commentators talk about foreign players 80% of the time. Although 4 out of 11 are foreign players. Tyagi is bowling and they are talking about Archer. But Stokes is bowling and they talk about Stokes. The commentary is becoming very irritating for me. Better tune into Dugout , Less Ads and some real good insight from Brian Lara about technicality & Strategy. zaqw222222 and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Yes, height is important but I won’t leave that as the only factor before dropping or picking a guy pike Deshpandey if he is consistently bowling in mid 140s in the near future. Yes, consistency will be the key if he is able to maintain that pace. 50 over game will better prove that or List A/FC games. Here during t20 games, player change up a lot of things based on how the pitch is playing and also mainly because they often have to bowl too much according to the plan as they are given the ball in short bursts of 1 over or two. Not the best way to judge a bowler but to get just an idea how quick he can get or if he has some potential. I liked how he was bowling yorkers. Thats good sign. If he can bowl 140-145 consistently and nail his Yorkers than that's great and he will deserve it. My point is you have to be much quicker or offer something different if you are that short as you don't get bounce to trouble batsmen. Malinga us short 5'8 but his low arm and accurate Yorker, deceptive slower balls have really made him effective. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prudent_kreeda Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, express bowling said: Deshpande 4th over Wide Slower 140 142 142 139 Slower ... OUT Brilliant over under pressure ! Lots of accurate and quick yorkers. One thing most of DC guys are talking about including Ryan Harris re: Tushar is about very good death bowling during nets , nailing yorkers after yorkers . If it comes true , he should seriously be supported as an alternative pacer in T20 for india if someone is injured . May do good for 3-4 years as a back up. if improves further . tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said: One thing most of DC guys are talking about including Ryan Harris re: Tushar is about very good death bowling during nets , nailing yorkers after yorkers . If it comes true , he should seriously be supported as an alternative pacer in T20 for india if someone is injured . May do good for 3-4 years as a back up. if improves further . Deshpande gives it his all, whenever I have seen him bowling in the last few years. Comes across as an honest trier. Looks like he has focused on yorkers and improved them a lot too. Plus such bowlers always get a bit more life out of the pitch. I will eagerly watch him bowl in the next couple of games. I think he will get a bit quicker too. Mosher and tweaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK_IH Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Nortje lit up the tournament today. This was unreal bowling, fast & accurate. Akhtar & Lee level bowling rollingstoned, Mosher, AnkurUpadhyay and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Prasidh Krishna needs to give it his all. Sometimes he does not complete his full action. When he puts in the effort he is above 145ks. He is also tall. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Prasidh Krishna needs to give it his all. Sometimes he does not complete his full action. When he puts in the effort he is above 145ks. He is also tall. We need to be ruthless and get Saini into our test match playing 11 as well as LOIs and Prasidh in our LOI playing 11 ASAP. These 2 can bowl 150 k with accuracy ... and if they are told to target the top of off stump at full pace ball after ball, we will transform our bowling attack. The problem is that trundlers like Shardul keep sneaking in and blocking spots. Edited October 15, 2020 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 It is a shame that not a single Indian pacer has crossed 150 k so far in IPL 2020. Last time Saini, Bumrah, Prasidh, Shami, Umesh, Aaron and Ishant ... all crossed 150 k. Cricketics, Hell Raiser and Mosher 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: We need to be ruthless and get Saini into our test match playing 11 as well as LOIs and Prasidh in our LOI playing 11 ASAP. These 2 can bowl 150 k with accuracy ... and if they are told to target the top of off stump at full pace ball after ball, we will transform our bowling attack. The problem is that trundlers like Shardul keep sneaking in and blocking spots. Sainis biggest weapon is being able to rush the batsmen, they are consistently late on the pull which should tell you something about how much zip he gets off the wicket. Raw speed is something even shardul is capable of like we saw in Nzl but even at 160 kph he won't trouble the batsmen. I'm actually concerned at how similar deshpande looks to shardul but we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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