Psychology of trundlers - what is their motivation?

[Austin 3:!6]

We are seeing trundler galore in ongoing IPL - Unadkat, Natarajan, Avesh Khan, Rajpoot etc.
 
I am trying to understand why someone would decide to become a trundler, what factors contribute to it and what is their motivation?
 
I mean as a young child when you join a cricket academy you make a decision what you want to be - a batsman, a bowler or both. If I want to become a fast bowler, I would like run and bowl fast to scare a batsman out and make a name for myself. If I want to become a batsman, I would aspire to become a top batsman and ensure my technique is getting right. If I want to become a spinner, I would want my variations working well.
 
But what motivates someone to become a trundler i.e running up and serving gentle pies? Why would you decide to play professional cricket and choose to be a trundler?
 
Discuss.
 
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[maniac]

Ans: 

[Suhaan]

Dead decks, possibly getting instructions from TM to use it to their advantage, backfiring though

Rajpoot was 135-140 k bowler,but has struggled even at domestics this season

Udaankut is Lord of trundlers,so no point describing him,even franchises twist their pants at the thought of dumping him

Natarajan bowled well, wasn't that trundling,he bowled one at 142 k

Avesh is chubby, doesn't qualify to be called a pace bowler

[NameGoesHere]

I don't think it is a fair question.  We all try to be the best, and most only get to be the we can be.  

 

Why would anyone care to do engineering and not join IIT? 

 

Why would anyone get into coding and be anything less than a Bill Gates?

 

Why would anyone become a writer and be anything less than Premchand/ Sartre/ etc?

 

Because as I said we all try to be the best, and most only get to be the we can be.  

 

I also say this, most of these trundlers, however much we may laugh at them, have accomplished more professionally in a comparative sense than (I'm guessing) most people on this forum. 

 

Edited September 27, 2020 by NameGoesHere

[Stan AF]

 

If you get paid in crores for just 2 months work then why not?

[New guy]

Because they are the ones getting selected again and again. They are the highest paid. Bhuvi, unadkat, etc are highly paid and icon players in their team. They get first bowling in their teams. They are always part of the XI.

 

Meanwhile pacers like Aaron have to struggle and are never first pick. We give many young batsmen chances, like Gill, shaw, etc. How many young pacers get chance? Yesterday nagarkoti was given bowling after 9 overs as a after thought. Even then only couple of franchise like KKR give indian pacers a chance

 

For fast bowlers we fill the team with overseas bowlers like cummins, archer, etc. Rest of bowler will be spinner and line and length bowlers 

 

So a fast bowler in india comes after  - star batsmen, young batsmen, indian spinners, indian trundlers and overseas pacers. The very last pick. So your chance  is already rare. Many franchises won't even pick an Indian pacer. Those that do will pick up established ones like Shami and Bumrah and not young ones. Then combine injury chance with bowling fast, Mavi, nagorkotti, etc are recovering from injuries. Then after all that you dont even get fraction of money that trundlers get

 

Now tell me why you wouldn't want to be a trundler? Test has brought some motivation to our fast bowlers but IPL and these narrow minded franchises will kill fast bowling in india again 

Edited September 27, 2020 by New guy

[Austin 3:!6]

Because they are the ones getting selected again and again. They are the highest paid. Bhuvi, unadkat, etc are highly paid and icon players in their team. They get first bowling in their teams. They are always part of the XI.
 
Meanwhile pacers like Aaron have to struggle and are never first pick. We give many young batsmen chances, like Gill, shaw, etc. How many young pacers get chance? Yesterday nagarkoti was given bowling after 9 overs as a after thought. Even then only couple of franchise like KKR give pacers a chance
 
For fast bowlers we fill the team with overseas bowlers like cummins, archer, etc. Rest of bowler will be spinner and line and length bowlers 
 
So a fast bowler in india comes after  - star batsmen, young batsmen, spinners, overseas pacers and trundlers. The very last pick So your chance  is already rare. Then combine injury chance with bowling fast, Mavi, nagorkotti, etc are recovering from injuries. Then after all that you dont even get fraction of money that trundlers get
 
Now tell me why you wouldn't want to be a trundler? Test has brought some motivation to our fast bowlers but IPL and these narrow minsed franchises will kill fast bowling in india again 

Good post. So basically our priorities are wrong.

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[Stan AF]

41 minutes ago, New guy said:

Because they are the ones getting selected again and again. They are the highest paid. Bhuvi, unadkat, etc are highly paid and icon players in their team. They get first bowling in their teams. They are always part of the XI.

 

Meanwhile pacers like Aaron have to struggle and are never first pick. We give many young batsmen chances, like Gill, shaw, etc. How many young pacers get chance? Yesterday nagarkoti was given bowling after 9 overs as a after thought. Even then only couple of franchise like KKR give pacers a chance

 

For fast bowlers we fill the team with overseas bowlers like cummins, archer, etc. Rest of bowler will be spinner and line and length bowlers 

 

So a fast bowler in india comes after  - star batsmen, young batsmen, spinners, overseas pacers and trundlers. The very last pick So your chance  is already rare. Then combine injury chance with bowling fast, Mavi, nagorkotti, etc are recovering from injuries. Then after all that you dont even get fraction of money that trundlers get

 

Now tell me why you wouldn't want to be a trundler? Test has brought some motivation to our fast bowlers but IPL and these narrow minsed franchises will kill fast bowling in india again 

Good post. Nice highlight on spinners. Almost every team now has atleast 2 spinners playing in the main 11 these days.

 

 

[Sooda]

2 hours ago, NameGoesHere said:

I don't think it is a fair question.  We all try to be the best, and most only get to be the we can be.  

 

Why would anyone care to do engineering and not join IIT? 

 

Why would anyone get into coding and be anything less than a Bill Gates?

 

Why would anyone become a writer and be anything less than Premchand/ Sartre/ etc?

 

Because as I said we all try to be the best, and most only get to be the we can be.  

 

I also say this, most of these trundlers, however much we may laugh at them, have accomplished more professionally in a comparative sense than (I'm guessing) most people on this forum. 

 

This is well said, it is an unfair OP.

Not everyone has the physique to bowl genuinely quick for a start, be it height or wing span or bio mechanics, so you got to make the most of what you have been blessed with in terms of ability and Than you have to reckon with injuries coming from pounding away on un responsive pitches in the heat.

 

I also say this, most of these trundlers, however much we may laugh at them, have accomplished more professionally in a comparative sense than (I'm guessing) most people on this forum. 

 

Haha indeed, certainly financially  much better off than most/ all ICFers for a start and btw Unadkat has played for India - how many people in a population of billions over the years can claim to have done so- and captained his state to a Ranji trophy: that is no ordinary achievement!!

[Sean Bradley]

Trundling has more to do with the physical ability of the bowler than the psychological attribute. If pace and bounce was everything then chaminda vaas was the greatest trundler ever. Across countries there are no tearaway out n out fast bowlers who could run through batting line ups like Lee and Akhtar. In theT20 era, where the boundaries are short, bats are getting wider, modern day batsmen are the fittest in the history of game, most bowlers are looking at other options than putting pace on a delivery. With the amount of cricket these guys play these days, I bet even Akhtar would have turned into a trundler after playing 20 test matches 2 season of IPL and some Jamodis in a span of 2 years. ICC should really introspect if they want to preserve the extincting art of Tear Away fast bowling. 

[Austin 3:!6]

Good point everyone. My point is trundling is pretty unattractive, so why would anyone choose to become one?

When one start playing cricket, if his body does not permit to become a fast bowler, he would rather choose to become a batsman or spinner than a trundler. Lets take Tendulkar for example, he wanted to become a fast bowler. But his coach advised its not a good choice due to his height and he changed himself to become a batsman.

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[maniac]

2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Good point everyone. My point is trundling is pretty unattractive, so why would anyone choose to become one?

When one start playing cricket, if his body does not permit to become a fast bowler, he would rather choose to become a batsman or spinner than a trundler. Lets take Tendulkar for example, he wanted to become a fast bowler. But his coach advised its not a good choice due to his height and he changed himself to become a batsman.

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It depends on who you call a trundler.  Tino best hits 150+ easily and is quicker than Broad and Anderson.

 

Amir and Philander can be threatening with the new ball on most surfaces.

 

If my max capability is 130 clicks then I would want to have all the skills to maximize my output.

 

Sometimes I wish Bhuvi stayed in the 135-140

range than trying to become a 140+ bowler which didn’t work out for him and he lost his swing.

[punjabi_khota]

I am a trundler of science and math. I totally understand their motivation.

[GeeGaw]

Someone has to pay the bills for Dinda Academy.

[someone]

Glenn Mcgrath. Speed was never his forte, yet he had the height, bounce, and discipline to be one of the top bowlers.

 

Unfortunately, Indian trundlers dont have such qualities