mishra Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, gattaca said: Black fungus is caused by industrial oxygen it seems. Crazy people need oxygen to survive with shortage we are using industrial oxygen but it is leading other bad effects like black fungus. Seriously? I thought it was unregulated unreasonable use of steroids as treatment over Diabetes prone population.
vvvslaxman Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, gattaca said: Black fungus is caused by industrial oxygen it seems. Crazy people need oxygen to survive with shortage we are using industrial oxygen but it is leading other bad effects like black fungus.
vvvslaxman Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, mishra said: Seriously? I thought it was unregulated unreasonable use of steroids as treatment over Diabetes prone population. Since we are not doctors let us hear all the analysis. The above video i have shared is from a doctor. Since it is air borne it is the contaminated oxygen. He doesn't say it cannot occur because of excessive use of steroids.
gattaca Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Since we are not doctors let us hear all the analysis. The above video i have shared is from a doctor. Since it is air borne it is the contaminated oxygen. He doesn't say it cannot occur because of excessive use of steroids. People with diabetes got treated with steroids in first wave and no mention of black fungus. This is definitely linked to industrial oxygen. I see that is the only different variable here. It could be airborne now. Interesting he mentions refill of oxygen cylinders but we were doing that in the past as well. Edited May 24, 2021 by gattaca
gattaca Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 The whole exercise of asking states to procure their own vaccines turned to be useless. The only option was Pfizer and moderna. Pfizer is saying they will not sell to states and only central govt. moderna is still having shortages till year end.
vvvslaxman Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, gattaca said: People with diabetes got treated with steroids in first wave and no mention of black fungus. This is definitely linked to industrial oxygen. I see that is the only different variable here. It could be airborne now. Interesting he mentions refill of oxygen cylinders but we were doing that in the past as well. I think sudden overwhelming of the system has probably led to this. Possible widespread protocol violation could have contributed to this.
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finnish_firm_earns_us_patent_for_covid_drug_containing_ivermectin_and_hydroxychloroquine/11946611 Finnish firm earns US patent for Covid drug containing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine The Turku company says its nasal spray delivers low, safe doses of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and aprotinin. G_B_ 1
coffee_rules Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, gattaca said: Black fungus is caused by industrial oxygen it seems. Crazy people need oxygen to survive with shortage we are using industrial oxygen but it is leading other bad effects like black fungus. This is not true, all speculation from Humantics grads spreading all kinds of pseudo-science. Indistrial Oxygen is used for combustion and other purposes, were exported. Medical Grade oxygen is different and was not used by Covid operations. This is false information
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 I think I am ready to jump on the Ivermectin train. There is no conspiracy against it. Results from various clinical trials including RCTs are now available and published. And it seems to work. Show me the damned data and I'll jump in. Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19 https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05/fccc-lpr050621.php Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified. G_B_ 1
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: This is not true, all speculation from Humantics grads spreading all kinds of pseudo-science. Indistrial Oxygen is used for combustion and other purposes, were exported. Medical Grade oxygen is different and was not used by Covid operations. This is false information They used cylinders used for industrial oxygen in carrying medical oxygen for patients. Those cylinders aren't as hygienic as medical oxygen cylinders. Edited May 25, 2021 by rkt.india coffee_rules 1
beetle Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/companies/if-employee-dies-due-to-covid-19-family-to-be-paid-salary-till-deceaseds-retirement-age-tata-steel-6931741.html If employee dies due to COVID-19, family to be paid salary till deceased's retirement age: Tata Steel mishra, EnterTheVoid, speedheat and 3 others 2 4
rkt.india Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: I think I am ready to jump on the Ivermectin train. There is no conspiracy against it. Results from various clinical trials including RCTs are now available and published. And it seems to work. Show me the damned data and I'll jump in. Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19 https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05/fccc-lpr050621.php Conclusions: Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified. My brother took Ivermectin and he just got cough, very light fever and came out of it quite comfortably and he isn't one of the fittest guys. He is obese, has high BP issues too. But he started taking Ivermectin immediately. He works in pharma, drug manufacturing. Edited May 25, 2021 by rkt.india G_B_, mishra, BacktoCricaddict and 1 other 2 2
beetle Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/covid-death-cos-continue-pay-support-kids-edu/articleshow/82923423.cms Covid death: Companies continue pay, support kids’ education mishra 1
G_B_ Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 @BacktoCricaddict thankyou for your informative posts. I was speaking to a friend and he told me that one reason for up containing the wave was ivermectin. He said its readily used by doctors for nearly everything. mishra and BacktoCricaddict 2
diga Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, beetle said: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/covid-death-cos-continue-pay-support-kids-edu/articleshow/82923423.cms Covid death: Companies continue pay, support kids’ education Have to appreciate the Tatas here... They have been one of the best employer in terms of social care/Insurance etc. BacktoCricaddict, mishra and beetle 3
G_B_ Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 So positivity rate at 9.54% Despite heavy boosting of testing in rural areas. This wave is under control. The focus must now shift to vaccinating people before the third wave. beetle, mishra, Laaloo and 1 other 4
vvvslaxman Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 Medical system has collapsed. Any slight misstep from here will be a catastrophe of unimaginable proportion. You can never say pandemic is over and we have won it. May be it is here to stay with us like the flu virus. SO get vaccinated, give yourself best chance to fight. Sure there are cases where people die even after vaccine. It is very hard to find a "one shoe fits all" vaccine. People with lower immunity due to autoimmune diseases or therapy that led to this may not respond exactly the same way to vaccine. Still it is better than nothing. Make sure everyone wear a mask and wear it PROPERLY. If 80% get vaccinated and 50% show great resistance to virus due to that we can dramatically control the community spread. mishra 1
mishra Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, G_B_ said: So positivity rate at 9.54% Despite heavy boosting of testing in rural areas. This wave is under control. The focus must now shift to vaccinating people before the third wave. I am sure that centre will deliver enough vaccines to states by 2021. Issue is going to be logistical and human resourcing in coming months along with vaccine hesitancy. Vaccinating 1 billionnpeople within a span of 6-8 months is not joke. I feel this vaccination program will be repeated again and again for few years globally before we can assume corona is out of system
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: My brother took Ivermectin and he just got cough, very light fever and came out of it quite comfortably and he isn't one of the fittest guys. He is obese, has high BP issues too. But he started taking Ivermectin immediately. He works in pharma, drug manufacturing. Happy for your bro, but this is still anecdotal and should not be used to push any medicine. As he will himself tell you, that is not adequate evidence. Until recently, evidence for ivermectin was still accumulating and it could've gone either way. Now, there is enough reason to recommend it. mishra and ravishingravi 2
urbestfriend Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Happy for your bro, but this is still anecdotal and should not be used to push any medicine. As he will himself tell you, that is not adequate evidence. Until recently, evidence for ivermectin was still accumulating and it could've gone either way. Now, there is enough reason to recommend it. So far it was not science, now it can be termed scientific after one study done somewhere? Seriously what is anecdotal when he knew for sure that is brother recovered after taking this medicine. mishra 1
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