beetle Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 He doesn't bat in nets when he's not scoring, Ricky Ponting recalls Prithvi Shaw's 'interesting' training habits https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/he-doesnt-bat-in-nets-when-hes-not-scoring-ricky-ponting-recalls-prithvi-shaws-interesting-training-habits/articleshow/81914312.cms One doesn't want net practice when out of form and the other thinks SR is not important. kya kya sapne dekhe the humne sorak, saik, sage and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 WTh!!!!!What ego! How does someone who has not achieved anything yet have the guts to not listen to his coach....that too when he was doing so bad with the bat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) dnt think its ego, players know what works for them. Sometimes taking time off is the best thing. IF he was lazy he wudnt wanna face more balls when he is in form. Gavaskar n tendulkar skipped nets a lot in latter part of their career. At times ppl over rate practice,its better to take time off sometimes . Sehwag always said he knew he only needs to face certain number of balls in nets but someone like gambhir needed 10 times more Edited April 5, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03 nevada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I am pretty sure after the Adelaide test dude was practicing alright. Maybe over confidence got to him in IPl. I think he did get a reality check sooner which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: dnt think its ego, players know what works for them. Sometimes taking time off is the best thing. IF he was lazy he wudnt wanna face more balls when he is in form. Gavaskar n tendulkar skipped nets a lot in latter part of their career. At times ppl over rate practice,its better to take time off sometimes . Sehwag always said he knew he only needs to face certain number of balls in nets but someone like gambhir needed 10 times more Gavaskar ,Tendulkar and Sehwag probably did it when they had made it and knew what worked for them. It is too early for Shaw . Besides how is the coach supposed to work on someone's shortcomings if he won't put in the effort. velu, sorak and New guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 What could be the reason for coming out with this in public? Ponting giving a warning early in the season? If true,then I am glad it is out. If he has attitude problems,he will know it is in public now. sorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoonyaSifar Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Never ever good for a coach or a selector to say such things publicly about a young player. How is this going to help Shaw? Unless the idea here to motivate him by asking ng hai m to prove the coach wrong. Again, that could either ways if a player isn't mentally as strong as say someone like Pant. Having said that Punter is one guy who can really help Shaw get back on track and set him up for international success for a decade or more. He was a complete j**k as an individual, but achieved legendary status through sheer grit, determination and disciplined hard work, wasn't the most naturally gifted player. If he could pass on even a bit of those qualities, especially discipline, to Shaw, all the potential will start getting converted into consistent performances. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 May be Shaw gave him a tough time last year and he does not want the repeat happening again .... trying to prevent it from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, beetle said: Gavaskar ,Tendulkar and Sehwag probably did it when they had made it and knew what worked for them. sehwag was same from starting 27 minutes ago, beetle said: It is too early for Shaw . Besides how is the coach supposed to work on someone's shortcomings if he won't put in the effort. didnt amre work on it, every player cant follow same method. Technical issues creep generally becoz of bad habbits for some it works out with extra practice and for some it works out by taking mind off. Every player has to be treated differently thats what man management is. Problem was if he didnt work had all any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Cut Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Good things don't happen without hard work- after a certain point, talent cant get you any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: sehwag was same from starting didnt amre work on it, every player cant follow same method. Technical issues creep generally becoz of bad habbits for some it works out with extra practice and for some it works out by taking mind off. Every player has to be treated differently thats what man management is. Problem was if he didnt work had all any time A 21 year old has absolutely no way to decide what works for him. Players grow and change and find new things. There is no way a 21 year old player can already decide what works for him In the end basics are important. What method are you even talking about when Shaw didn't even take the nets so absolutely no method was even tried beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, New guy said: A 21 year old has absolutely no way to decide what works for him. Players grow and change and find new things. There is no way a 21 year old player can already decide what works for him In the end basics are important. What method are you even talking about when Shaw didn't even take the nets so absolutely no method was even tried Every player knows what works for him at international level . Ull hear every cricketer saying take a bit of time off when form isnt good coz u keep repeating bad habbits in nets making it worse . Working in nets in a middle of a tournament is far different then going away from team and working on basics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 You can feel that there is something wrong about Shaw ... there are many things he needs to work on including fielding ... since Ind has many options, it is his loss if he does not push himself sorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, beetle said: WTh!!!!!What ego! How does someone who has not achieved anything yet have the guts to not listen to his coach....that too when he was doing so bad with the bat? Semantic gap. This is the media sensationalizing the issue. Most probably, Shaw doesn't understand what Ponting is saying. Many a times, during the game when they go to Ponting for a sound byte, I don't understand anything. The language sounds familiar but its all gargle punctuated by the occasional 'mayte'. Edited April 6, 2021 by Mariyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) Ricky Ponting's biggest talent lies in the gentle art of seeking favours under the guise of conferring them. He talked his way into a coaching contract and made it seem like we needed him. And now he's calling out our youngsters for non issues like being unfit and skipping training. Edited April 6, 2021 by Mariyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just now, sarchasm said: Where do you feel it specifically? Your anal sphincter? in your ugly demeanour sarchasm and wc2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 He should never be let into the national team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 16 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Every player knows what works for him at international level . Ull hear every cricketer saying take a bit of time off when form isnt good coz u keep repeating bad habbits in nets making it worse . Working in nets in a middle of a tournament is far different then going away from team and working on basics what works for you should be handled in private. When you are part of a professional set up, you have a hierarchy and rules to follow, you have to follow them. If Ponting as a coach wanted to see his game in the nets and find flaws, he should have obeyed him. So a player can refuse things to his captain,coach,management etc on the pretext that it doesn’t works for him ? Wonder if this is the attitude Shaw has towards Ponting, I wonder how he feels about taking tips from Rathour. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkutfan Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I think that loss of form in the IPL messed up Shaw mentally. And, when he was in that slump, he was in no mood to practice. Think Ponting should have handled that privately and helped give the guy the tools necessary to handle failure, mentally. My guess is Shaw will have learned from this. He has taken the first step with fighting his way back by scoring in domestic tournaments. I really hope he does well this IPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 12 hours ago, Mariyam said: Semantic gap. This is the media sensationalizing the issue. Most probably, Shaw doesn't understand what Ponting is saying. Many a times, during the game when they go to Ponting for a sound byte, I don't understand anything. The language sounds familiar but its all gargle punctuated by the occasional 'mayte'. A Message like: “ you suck right now, just shut the f up, Put your head down, practice and work on the flaws” can be conveyed easily even via non verbal communication. So don’t think accent seems to be an issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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