Trichromatic Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 10 years career and just 1 test in England. Worse bowlers have played more there. 2011 series - even RP Singh played ahead of him.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 he is lucky that he is still travelling overseas with the team. Anywhere outside india, any ball apart from SG and he is bang below avg sage and Sandeep99 2
maniac Posted July 21, 2021 Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Yes. Umesh would have won us a couple of overseas tests in Eng Sa and Nzl Umesh Ishant and Shami should have been one of the greatest top3 test bowling line ups of all time but it’s a good problem to have with the emergence of Bumrah. Now I think he is getting a reality check so time for Bumrah to play country cricket. Not Ranji though. Even though Bhuvi was great in a couple of overseas conditions we have wasted investing in him. It’s like investing 100$ in something and getting $1 return after 20 years. Useless Edited July 21, 2021 by maniac
R!TTER Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Trichromatic said: 10 years career and just 1 test in England. Worse bowlers have played more there. 2011 series - even RP Singh played ahead of him. One (none?) in SA IIRC, last tour with tailor made pitches for quicks in SA/Eng/NZ he played what 2 games combined? Chumps like Sharmaji have played more
Trichromatic Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he is lucky that he is still travelling overseas with the team. Anywhere outside india, any ball apart from SG and he is bang below avg Pankaj Singh played 2 games. RP Singh was flown from Miami and got 1 game. Varun Aaron got 1-2 games. Probably Umesh could have played 4-5 tests.
Sandeep99 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 I've never seen Umesh land Dukes/Kookaburra ball consistently for 6 balls in one spot EVER. He's an SG specialist and should strictly play only matches in India. SandeepMotta 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Pankaj Singh played 2 games. RP Singh was flown from Miami and got 1 game. Varun Aaron got 1-2 games. Probably Umesh could have played 4-5 tests. Doesnt matter , a lot of time u just have to play someone due to circumstances Pankaj singh played as his 1st games so no one knew how good or bad he ll be, he was a prolific domestic player. And with all the injuries he got his chance RP singh was brilliant in 2007 tour and played on reputation, We have had problem of giving someone a chance on reputation Aaron was bowling well that time It aint a competition to be fair to all, not possible. He has had his chance overseas n proved to be below avg. Making a case for this is pointless...... How is this even an argument that others sucked so he shud have also gotten a chance to. Dhoni didnt rate him much , we all have criticised him for that but over the years realised he wasnt entirely wrong. He just doesnt keep up the pressure which can ruin any captains plan. If Ishant, Bumrah have done well in last yr its becoz they keep it damn tight
Lord Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Gets lovely shape on his outswing so surprising he struggles in SENA then again hes only really played in Aus only where there is least swing.And hes done better than our bowlers of that period like Aaron and old Ishant
Trichromatic Posted September 3, 2021 Author Posted September 3, 2021 Showing his skills in 2nd opportunity
rkt.india Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) On 7/22/2021 at 11:21 AM, Trichromatic said: Pankaj Singh played 2 games. RP Singh was flown from Miami and got 1 game. Varun Aaron got 1-2 games. Probably Umesh could have played 4-5 tests. That was 2011 when Miami singh happened. He hadn't even made a test debut. I think was injured then in 2014, was coming back from injury, went to Australia with India A. Edited September 3, 2021 by rkt.india
rkt.india Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) His problem has always been being expensive. Even when he did well went for 4 rpo plus. He doesn't stick to a plan, tries too much and sprays Edited September 3, 2021 by rkt.india
Trichromatic Posted September 3, 2021 Author Posted September 3, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:16 PM, Lord said: Gets lovely shape on his outswing so surprising he struggles in SENA then again hes only really played in Aus only where there is least swing.And hes done better than our bowlers of that period like Aaron and old Ishant If he had got chances in England, he would have done better than many bowlers who played for India.
deepdynamo Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 I want umesh to get 49 wickets more to end with a very respectable 200 test wicket bowler.
vishalvirsingh Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 why was Prasidh not played, they got him into the Main Squad one day before the test match. express bowling and Vijy 2
express bowling Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: why was Prasidh not played, they got him into the Main Squad one day before the test match. A bounce bowler like Prasidh would have been very dangerous on this pitch SRT100, Mosher, vishalvirsingh and 1 other 1 3
vishalvirsingh Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: A bounce bowler like Prasidh would have been very dangerous on this pitch i told my coalegues that Prasidh and/or avesh khan would definitely play one or two tests before this series ends. Avesh khan got hurt so that prediction cant become true but i hope Prasidh is played in next test. with Lambu ISHANt not fit Prasidh should have been played Straight....like to like replacement. uemsh is trying well but he is not looking that nasty. Shardul has underperformed as a bowler though he has batted aggressively. express bowling and Vijy 2
vvvslaxman Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 He is a decent outswing bowler. One guy i am surprised to see failing in England was Sreesanth. His bowling is tailor made for English conditions. Another guy who bowled brilliant outswingers was L Balaji.
Vijy Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He is a decent outswing bowler. One guy i am surprised to see failing in England was Sreesanth. His bowling is tailor made for English conditions. Another guy who bowled brilliant outswingers was L Balaji. sreesanth may had skills, but no discipline.
SRT100 Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 7 hours ago, express bowling said: A bounce bowler like Prasidh would have been very dangerous on this pitch Tactically this is what Kohli should have done and rested one of Bumrah and or Siraj. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: Tactically this is what Kohli should have done and rested one of Bumrah and or Siraj. And as Siraj was looking out of energy in the last test itself, it should have been Prasidh in place of Siraj. SRT100 and Mosher 1 1
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