wanted_desi Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 SKY for test matches, what is this management smoking in England? beetle and Frustrated 1 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: yea where is shankar n panchal whom we have been taking on A tours for last few yrs I dnt even remember them playing on A tour red ball games. Panchal is an opener and we already have Easwaran. The TM is looking for middle order replacement. Shanker is an all rounder and the TM has slresdy decided the AR will be jadeja. Also Shankars last ranji trophy outings were mediocre. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, neel roy said: Panchal is an opener and we already have Easwaran. The TM is looking for middle order replacement. Shanker is an all rounder and the TM has slresdy decided the AR will be jadeja. Also Shankars last ranji trophy outings were mediocre. Panchal can bat anywhere, he has for india A. Shankar is a batting all rounder who has one of most sound technique. Everyone will have some bad season, i dnt think even easwaran came from a good season. Jayant also has been selected as al rounder, his bowling wasnt good enough even in indian condition. Shankar bowling is meant for eng conditions Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Believe it or not, shankar, dube are guys that should be sent to England. Yes even dube. Dube actually has a good first class record. He appears scrub ish in short format but he can play red ball pretty well. Shankar should be picked. People have this misconception about shankars ability based on his short format exploits SMH. People need to watch ranji or atleast pay attention to performances based on stats in ranji. Dube has done well at india A level also in red ball. But the mans feet dont move ...its like a tree. Those england bowlers will fight for his wkt, easy bunny. They shud also watch his NZ A tour batting i think it was before 2019 wc one when we toured nz Link to comment
QuarantineTormentino Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Selectors hit the lottery with Sundar and Thakur in Aus and now they think they can select any Tom Dick and Harry in tests and get away with it Sandeep99 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: Selectors hit the lottery with Sundar and Thakur in Aus and now they think they can select any Tom Dick and Harry in tests and get away with it No sundar and thakur were always good. You could tell they were talented. Thakur has a good first class record and is experienced. .sundar was an exceptional talent. Link to comment
QuarantineTormentino Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jay said: No sundar and thakur were always good. You could tell they were talented. Thakur has a good first class record and is experienced. .sundar was an exceptional talent. Not really, Thakur had an okayish FC record and you’re right that Sundar was an exceptional talent, but he had played very few FC matches prior to the series, luckily for us he took to test cricket like a duck to water Link to comment
beetle Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 What is the use of taking such a big baraat if they can't handle 2-3 injuries? No wonder players don't perform out of their skin for this Rat .He has no value for anyone . If Rat is injured, then he should be sent back. If he won't play , then he should not be allowed to meddle . Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 hours ago, neel roy said: Logic Jayant : England struggle against quality off spin.. ashwin muralitharan lyon have all made england look fools. In India the best off spinner is Ashwin and then zilch. Only offspinner we have who is regular in FC matches is Jayant Yadav and so he has been sent ( mind you Sundar hasnt even played FC in a while still he was there). Shaw : Like for like replacement for Gill SKY : Here it becomes interesting. The middle order is made of 5 players Pujara Kohli Rahane Rahul Hanuma. Out of this Rahul was once upon a time opener so basically 4 proper middle order batsman. So now you cast your net and go to FC and who do you find: just nobody who is breaking the door.. so we check 2019 Ranji statistics and here you get the following top 4 scorers.. 1. Sarfraz Khan 2. Punit Bisht ( kohlis close friend u19 wc winner playing in plate) 3. Anushtup Majumdar ( old now was a good bengal batsman) 4. Arpit Vasvada now you check 2020 Most runs Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s RR Dalal 9 17 3 1340 267* 95.71 1764 75.96 4 5 1 174 13 (Arunachal Pradesh) T Kohli 9 16 2 998 307* 71.28 1662 60.04 3 5 1 117 1 (Mizoram) P Bisht 9 15 1 976 250 69.71 1291 75.60 2 6 1 138 8 (Meghalaya) P Dogra 9 13 1 967 200 80.58 1130 85.57 4 3 3 106 22 (Puducherry) SN Khan 6 9 3 928 301* 154.66 1180 78.64 3 2 0 112 22 (Mumbai) Amit Verma 10 14 1 848 148 65.23 1177 72.04 4 4 0 88 19 (Goa) Harpreet Singh 8 11 1 838 221 83.80 1452 57.71 4 2 1 113 6 (Chhattisgarh) Babul Kumar 9 15 0 822 195 54.80 1436 57.24 2 5 1 119 1 (Bihar) All plate stuff. So the only one coming out who is there in both years is S Khan but issue is he is person non grata with his fitness. So what options do TM have? The safest option. Go by guts and by performance in LOI format and this is where Sky comes in as he looked good in all matched he played. Plus he became the MOS in the odis and looked assured. Thus he got the call.. Sarfaraj is much fitter now, is one of the best batting talent in the country. Sandeep99 1 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I was hoping and praying that serendipity has a say and one of or both Bhuvi and Chahar will be sent to England. Not to be. tour hasn't even begun and the squad appears to be depleting, our teams picked by the end of the tour will be very interesting. Link to comment
Nikola Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Jayant looks like backup for ashwin just like axar is backup for jadeja. One of bhuvi/chahar must have been sent to england. I am not saying to play 3 or 4 tests but even 1 or 2 would have been handy. Link to comment
Jay Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nikola said: Jayant looks like backup for ashwin just like axar is backup for jadeja. One of bhuvi/chahar must have been sent to england. I am not saying to play 3 or 4 tests but even 1 or 2 would have been handy. Problem is their fitness. Can they handle bowling at intensity for 30 overs in tests. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I don't think selectors rate Ranji numbers that high & rightly so... Surya's selection might be one of the genius moves of all time or blunder only time will tell. I'd have liked if he played T20s first. TM wants stroke makers.. So Idk what kinda pitches they are expecting. Same goes for Shaw. J Yadav is a okayish selection... Can bat. Obviously back up player. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: I'd have liked if he played T20s first. He won't start in the eleven unless all options are depleted, captain d***head will slowly but surely kill all the positive momentum from the Oz series win - first WTC final & now 5-zip on the cards & then Drunken Master will come out proclaiming we're the best side ever after we win 1 session Lone Wolf, nitinbwj and raki05 3 Link to comment
Jay Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, R!TTER said: He won't start in the eleven unless all options are depleted, captain d***head will slowly but surely kill all the positive momentum from the Oz series win - first WTC final & now 5-zip on the cards & then Drunken Master will come out proclaiming we're the best side ever after we win 1 session One thing I will give kohli credit for is his ability to accept losses. He doesn't make excuses about pitches. **** bewda captain though regardless. His influence in terms of fitness is wildly overrated. IPL helped change Indian's fitness culture not kohli. The bowlers have been getting consistently better post 2000. The trend is moving in upwards trajectory. We have world class bowlers now due to our system. Kohli did f all. If anything he is trying to ruin our system. Fast bowling captain my butt lol. How many youngsters have debuted under him unless they sucked up to him? Even siraj was lucky to get a chance due to an injury crisis. Look at his FIRST CLASS AND A team records. It's phenomenal. He deserved his chance via merit alone. He wouldn't have got that opportunity if it weren't for shamis injury unfortunately. Kuli is undoubtedly one of the worst captains in the world at the moment. Link to comment
Serpico Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 B team consisting of Rohit (c) Mayank Sky Rahul Pant Jadeja Thakur Jayant Siraj Prasidh Porel Lots of potential for some 2021 magic here Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: He won't start in the eleven unless all options are depleted, captain d***head will slowly but surely kill all the positive momentum from the Oz series win - first WTC final & now 5-zip on the cards & then Drunken Master will come out proclaiming we're the best side ever after we win 1 session Winning 1 test would be an achievement.. If we win 2 it would be nothing short of a miracle. I think England batting is as weak as ours.. But I have serious issues regarding our bowling. Don't think they can outbowl their English counterparts barring Siraj maybe. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Shaw - ok SKY- What ??? Srsly what ??? In test , What ??? Jayant - Kaha se ,kidhar se, kyun???? Saale england men kis khushi men spinner bhej rhe ho itne already 3 hai waha What the hell is Shankar doing TNPL for ??? Why not send Deepak Chahar ??? why jayant yadav and not Deepak Chahar??? Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Nikola said: Jayant looks like backup for ashwin just like axar is backup for jadeja. One of bhuvi/chahar must have been sent to england. I am not saying to play 3 or 4 tests but even 1 or 2 would have been handy. exactly//if ashwin is unfit and they dont want to play jaddu then Jayant yadav may be played. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Jay said: Believe it or not, shankar, dube are guys that should be sent to England. Yes even dube. Dube actually has a good first class record. He appears scrub ish in short format but he can play red ball pretty well. Shankar should be picked. People have this misconception about shankars ability based on his short format exploits SMH. People need to watch ranji or atleast pay attention to performances based on stats in ranji. Deepak chahar, VIjay Shankar, Dubey are three similiar type players and suit to go for england tests.....Deepak chahar seems to be a better bowler out of the three , though the other two may be better batsman than Deepak. But Why not Deepak CHAHAR specially after a match wining 69...??? Link to comment
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