Temba Bavuma

[jf1gp_1]

How much of an inferiority complex do cricket administrators of SA have that Temba Bavuma is captain and opening in a T20 game that too when ABDV and faf are sitting at home twiddling thumbs

 

[Majestic]

Skill wise, Jamemann Malan is also a better T20 batsman than Bavuma.

[AuxiliA]

They have destroyed their cricket through the quota system. Reservations are OK at domestic levels but the International team should only be selected on merit. 

 

 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said:

How much of an inferiority complex do cricket administrators of SA have that Temba Bavuma is captain and opening in a T20 game that too when ABDV and faf are sitting at home twiddling thumbs

 

Abdv has retired. Bavuma is a quota pick.

[New guy]

1 hour ago, AuxiliA said:

They have destroyed their cricket through the quota system. Reservations are OK at domestic levels but the International team should only be selected on merit. 

 

 

No, they think humanity is bigger than a game. You know, unlike some people who just like to pretend they care about humanity over sports but then pretend not to ubderstand why south africia is doing this

[AuxiliA]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

No, they think humanity is bigger than a game. You know, unlike some people who just like to pretend they care about humanity over sports but then pretend not to ubderstand why south africia is doing this

 

Isn't their identity based on their nationality and not their race? 

 

Blacks are getting richer. They are getting better jobs and education. They are excelling in sports and entertainment industry. As some 'guy' from an other thread would say- Where's the persecution black people? 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

No, they think humanity is bigger than a game. You know, unlike some people who just like to pretend they care about humanity over sports but then pretend not to ubderstand why south africia is doing this

What do you think happens when you are so out of the league as compared to other players that they have zero respect for you? 

That's normal human behaviour, the captain of the side should always be a worthy man. 

I am quite sure that Temba himself is embarrassed on leading the side when he isn't good enough to even make the reserves. 

South African cricket will be down in the dumps bcoz of this and yes you can't justify destroying an organization just bcoz you wanted to improve racial balance, lol. 

 

[gattaca]

It’s same as reservations in India. 

[nitinbwj]

ABD doesn't want to play.

[jf1gp_1]

Sadly for SA Buvama is fit for opener against Australia 

[Serpico]

Looks like a good captain, loved the way he defended low score. Much better than clueless Dekock

[vvvslaxman]

On 10/21/2021 at 6:02 AM, gattaca said:

It’s same as reservations in India. 

 

That is not quiet the same. It was more to uplift economically backward people. Over a period the bridging of the gap was achieved. I still support reservation for tribes. They can revisit the quota system every 5 years or so and readjust. But it is controlled by political elements. Votes are based on caste.  So it is not going away. We are talking about reservation for millions of jobs, millions of admissions not like admission for 11 people where the merit should be rewarded. Having said that SA hsa given us some great colored players like Ntini, Rabada, Philander.  

[R!TTER]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

That is not quiet the same. It was more to uplift economically backward people.

And they never achieved that, only pushed mediocrity & corruption further up the chain & permeated every part of our system! Reservations are never good, period 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

And they never achieved that, only pushed mediocrity & corruption further up the chain & permeated every part of our system! Reservations are never good, period 

 

Many people from ultra poor background has settled in USA, Gulf or do a good job in INdia itself. Original intention was  that. But they didn't revisit that every now and then. IN some cases they doubled down.Anyway this is a subject for another day. My point was it is not the same as SA quota.  Faf should have played in place of Bavuma. Bavuma is probably okay in one dayers. He is averaging 49 there.  Also can't believe he has  played 44 tests with such a poor average.

[gattaca]

11 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

That is not quiet the same. It was more to uplift economically backward people. Over a period the bridging of the gap was achieved. I still support reservation for tribes. They can revisit the quota system every 5 years or so and readjust. But it is controlled by political elements. Votes are based on caste.  So it is not going away. We are talking about reservation for millions of jobs, millions of admissions not like admission for 11 people where the merit should be rewarded. Having said that SA hsa given us some great colored players like Ntini, Rabada, Philander.  

Reservations are denying people opportunities. If reservations couldn’t achieve in 70 years independence Don’t think it will achieve anything. Jobs might be ok since private sector has many jobs now but what about education reservations they are bad no other way around it. Not everyone who doesn’t qualify for reservations is rich there are poor families too. They are denied opportunities.

Edited October 24, 2021 by gattaca

[kepler37b]

On 10/21/2021 at 11:26 AM, New guy said:

No, they think humanity is bigger than a game. You know, unlike some people who just like to pretend they care about humanity over sports but then pretend not to ubderstand why south africia is doing this

This quota, at international level, gives opportunity to hardly 3-4 guys.  Hiring for merit and winning trophies brings bigger happiness to the country. Even more money too.

Edited October 24, 2021 by kepler37b

[New guy]

12 hours ago, R!TTER said:

And they never achieved that, only pushed mediocrity & corruption further up the chain & permeated every part of our system! Reservations are never good, period 

 

Proof? Yes thats the narrative which is spread 

 

Hoe are quotas linked to corruption? Matlab kuch bhi bol lo

Edited October 24, 2021 by New guy

[New guy]

47 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

This quota, at international level, gives opportunity to hardly 3-4 guys.  Hiring for merit and winning trophies brings bigger happiness to the country. Even more money too.

But it motivates many others. The point is to give a legs up to those who have been denied opportunity for so long

[ShoonyaSifar]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

But it motivates many others. The point is to give a legs up to those who have been denied opportunity for so long

There are better ways of affirmative action than picking someone not good enough to be in the squad as the captain. If they needed to send across the message, Rabada would have been a much better choice.

 

They have the example of Siya Kolisi, their Rugby Team captain, a well deserved and earned honor. 

[jf1gp_1]

7 minutes ago, New guy said:

But it motivates many others. The point is to give a legs up to those who have been denied opportunity for so long

Give opportunity at domestic level not international also no one is questioning KG's place. He is there on merit but how will benching Nortje and playing junior dala ever be good for SA cricket. 

 

Tell me post world cup would you be fine if in the name of promotion we made Sanju Samson or Sarfaraz khan captain.