Vijy Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Jay said: They are average but good enough yo destroy trimurti now. can't play spin for toffee now, as they say
ravishingravi Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Jay said: Not to be a dick but under 19 is not a good benchmark. Remember lot of players came through and won under 19 tournaments yet they were no where to be found later. But.....in saying that,this kid looks legit good. Not like unmukth chand etc. Spot on. I can’t get the excitement of U19 tournaments. Unmukt Chand looked like Bradman. Where is he now ? Quite frankly only the first U19 WC winning team gave top Indian players. Kohli is the only other exception. Jay 1
Lone Wolf Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: They are average but good enough yo destroy trimurti now. Nah Tanveer Snagha has been backed by Aussies as they value his talent. If not for Covid guy could have been to various A tours to India already. Jay 1
rkt.india Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Spot on. I can’t get the excitement of U19 tournaments. Unmukt Chand looked like Bradman. Where is he now ? Quite frankly only the first U19 WC winning team gave top Indian players. Kohli is the only other exception. Rohit, Pujara 2006. Jaddu 2006-2008. Dhawan 2004. Pant 2016.
rkt.india Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord said: what about injuries? Will he stay fit or be like HP? He has a better build. Lord 1
Lone Wolf Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 Bawa has Ben Stokes esque potential. Can't wait to see him in IPl. A left hander plus a potential test/ODI class fast bowler who extracts bounce. Hopefully he does well.
Adamant Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jay said: Are you serious lol? Gabba win Backs to the wall smashing of England at home. 4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Sometimes we get it right.. Look at @nsareen post from 2016 during under-19 world cup which he was part of. Sundar was barely 16 years old. Sundar has to play and prove more before you can claim to have recognized his talent. Yes that one win was great but quite a few cricketers have had been part of few great victories without having a memorable career. Edited February 6, 2022 by Adamant Pollack 1
Adamant Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: I love sundar. Never been more excited about a batting all rounder. He is a top tier talent. It would take just two or three failures for m you to take a U turn on him just like you did on Pant before he smashed a hundred.
Jay Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Adamant said: Sundar has to play and prove more before you can claim to have recognized his talent. Yes that one win was great but quite a few cricketers have had been part of few great victories without having a memorable career. Not away from home. No way. Who? Give me 3 names from under 19 who excelled away from home in sena conditions and helped India win a series there. Pant Gill sundar were the only ones to do it. You know 3 other names? Edited February 6, 2022 by Jay
Jay Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Adamant said: It would take just two or three failures for m you to take a U turn on him just like you did on Pant before he smashed a hundred. Pant batted like a *ing moron in test 2. Did he not? He batted like a moron in test 1 too apart from that 36 he scored at a crucial time. It was well deserved. I dont care If players get out. But brainless shots makes my blood boil. I do rate pant as our best ever keeper. Higher than Dhoni. In saying that I believe he is a mediocre odi cricketer. He averages 33 or something in List A albeit with a good strike rate. Hope he proves me wrong. Edited February 6, 2022 by Jay
Adamant Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Jay said: Not away from home. No way. Who? Give me 3 names from under 19 who excelled away from home in sena conditions and helped India win a series there. Gill sundar were the only ones to do it. You know 3 other names? What does that have to do with under 19, there have been many players who have been part of one great victory. Not undermining Sundar here, I know he is talented but let's wait an watch how he actually becomes a great/good player before making conclusions.
Lord Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Pant batted like a *ing moron in test 2. Did he not? He batted like a moron in test 1 too apart from that 36 he scored at a crucial time. It was well deserved. I dont care If players get out. But brainless shots makes my blood boil. I do rate pant as our best ever keeper. Higher than Dhoni. In saying that I believe he is a mediocre odi cricketer. He averages 33 or something in List A albeit with a good strike rate. Hope he proves me wrong. brainless when it fails,brave when it works Vk1, Mosher and anish2tweet 1 2
vvvslaxman Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Adamant said: Sundar has to play and prove more before you can claim to have recognized his talent. Yes that one win was great but quite a few cricketers have had been part of few great victories without having a memorable career. We are starting about simple things like making a mark in the internationals not becoming next Sachin Tendulkar. This is strictly about under-19 transition to international cricket. Not some random first class player who did well in one match and disappears (like Hirwani). Sarfraz is from the same batch. He was more hyped. than any player. He is yet to find his feet in the internationals.
nitinbwj Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 Bawa took 4 wickets and scored 35 crucial runs. He has something in him. India hasn't had success with allrounders in the past. He looks a genuine one.
R!TTER Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Kohli is the only other exception. Jadeja - you forgot him?
Pollack Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: ??? 5 tests already 3 or 4 back to the wall innings 7 hours ago, Jay said: Are you serious lol? Gabba win Backs to the wall smashing of England at home. The point is he is not settled in Indian team as of yet. He had great start, no doubt but he hasn't made it "big" yet.
Pollack Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Adamant said: Sundar has to play and prove more before you can claim to have recognized his talent. Yes that one win was great but quite a few cricketers have had been part of few great victories without having a memorable career. A few poor games and most people will take a U turn.
rkt.india Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 I have liked Ravi Kumar too. He maybe a bit slow right now but can certainly get quicker. Bowled up to 135. Same as khaleel in 2016. On the taller side too. One fifer, one 4-fer in the tournament. Don't remember Indian seamer taking that many wickets in u19 wc.
gakgupta Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 Too early to say anything...But one thing which goes in favor of this kid is....he is a genuine all-rounder....He is not one of those utility one day player...He is in mould of Ben stokes , Chris Crain's, Andrew flintoff...Again...he had a long way to go in terms of his bowling and batting...He should be drafted into A side immediately. Not that he has earned the place or ready for A tours but giving him that exposure is very important and allow him to learnSent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
gakgupta Posted February 6, 2022 Posted February 6, 2022 I have liked Ravi Kumar too. He maybe a bit slow right now but can certainly get quicker. Bowled up to 135. Same as khaleel in 2016. On the taller side too. One fifer, one 4-fer in the tournament. Don't remember Indian seamer taking that many wickets in u19 wc.Totally agree...Infact Ravi looked better bowler than bawaSent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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