Congrats India under-19 team

[vvvslaxman]

Great win against many odds. Captain/Vice captain both got indisposed. Missed matches. They managed with available resources yet dominated the tournament. Depth of the squad is amazing. Usually in under-19 matches our team would look a little down after top 3 wickets are gone. Not this team.  Congratulations !!  

[Lord]

they hyped Dravid after last win. No one will talk about Kanitkar's role now.

 

Don't even know what VVS is doing there.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

they hyped Dravid after last win. No one will talk about Kanitkar's role now.

 

Don't even know what VVS is doing there.

 

Yes. generally background staffs play bigger roles. Often flies under the radar. Players will reveal in due course. But ofcourse Dravid did fine tune some of the approach of players like Gill. 

[Lord]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Yes. generally background staffs play bigger roles. Often flies under the radar. Players will reveal in due course. But ofcourse Dravid did fine tune some of the approach of players like Gill. 

Kanitkar is the coach here,so he apparently did the same

 

Dravid got hyped because hes a big name.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

Kanitkar is the coach here,so he apparently did the same

 

Dravid got hyped because hes a big name.

 

Wasnt't Dravid the head coach in 2016?

[SK_IH]

It was a very well structured team & squad. A team full of all rounders, many batting options & varied bowling. It's generally hard to beat such teams.

[Vijy]

Great win! Lots of challenges faced, and overcome with ease. Virtually all of the team, barring Harnoor and Tambe, contributed at various points in the tourney. true team performance. looking forward to seeing more of rasheed + raghuvansh (in FC), Hangu (all formats), Bawa (List A/T20), Bana (T20 and List A), Dhull (all formats), Sindhu (List A), Ostwal (FC + List A), and so on

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

Kanitkar is the coach here,so he apparently did the same

 

Dravid got hyped because hes a big name.

 

Oh k i see what you mean. I think hype was more because players themselves paid complements to him. Laxman correctly puts out the reasons for success. India's under-16 program plays a very big part in India's performance in under-19 world cups. They have a great system in place. Sure Coach plays a role in fine tuning them. 

[Vijy]

8 hours ago, SK_IH said:

It was a very well structured team & squad. A team full of all rounders, many batting options & varied bowling. It's generally hard to beat such teams.

yes, it was really reminiscent of the model of 90s SA or current Eng. Many ARs who can shuffle up and down order (e.g., sindhu, bawa, hangu), batters who can bowl (e.g., raghuvansh), and bowlers who can bat.

Edited February 6, 2022 by Vijy

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

It was a very well structured team & squad. A team full of all rounders, many batting options & varied bowling. It's generally hard to beat such teams.

 

That is always my expectation. Always pick the best players for roles. Don't  pick the best players and redefine role for them.  CSK is an example this season. Gambhir's KKR was like that in the beginning where his team would often have 4 seamers 4 spinners something like that. Some times he will not use spinners at all. Some times he will not use pacers much. THat flexibility is what we need. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

13 minutes ago, Lord said:

they hyped Dravid after last win. No one will talk about Kanitkar's role now.

 

Don't even know what VVS is doing there.

Dravid, as NCA head, was still in charge of these u-19 and A squads till three months back. Take nothing away from Kanitkar and Bahutule but do not underplay Dravid's role in setting up solid structures for these emerging cricketers.

 

Which makes his pathetic choices as the national coach even more frustrating.

[Lord]

Just now, ShoonyaSifar said:

Dravid, as NCA head, was still in charge of these u-19 and A squads till three months back. Take nothing away from Kanitkar and Bahutule but do not underplay Dravid's role in setting up solid structures for these emerging cricketers.

 

Which makes his pathetic choices as the national coach even more frustrating.

 

I'm doubting because of his performance as national coach only.

 

Maybe hes better at establishing systems/environment than tactics/selection.

[Vijy]

Just now, ShoonyaSifar said:

Dravid, as NCA head, was still in charge of these u-19 and A squads till three months back. Take nothing away from Kanitkar and Bahutule but do not underplay Dravid's role in setting up solid structures for these emerging cricketers.

 

Which makes his pathetic choices as the national coach even more frustrating.

some individuals are better suited to coaching a certain level of people, and not other levels. Like Gasperini who is a great coach for weaker team (Atalanta) and not so much for stronger ones, in Italian Serie A football

[vvvslaxman]

[ShoonyaSifar]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

I'm doubting because of his performance as national coach only.

 

Maybe hes better at establishing systems/environment than tactics/selection.

I remain hopeful despite these initial disappointments.

 

Could just be his way of not dismantling everything in one go. The WI and SL series will tell us more.

[Lord]

 

[Lord]

 

[Sandeep99]

Pretty amazing win. I like the composition of this team. So many players with multi skills. This is the template Indian cricket should follow. 

[Sandeep99]

Dinesh Bana and Hangargekar will win massive amounts in the coming auction. Both terrific players and amazing hitters of the cricket ball. 

[First class]

This team might not have flamboyant players of 2018 addition but they showed absolutely wonderful big match temperament , self confidence and never say die attitude. Whenever team was in trouble, someone stood up and brought the team out of deep water. Like today , they were 4 down at 80 some runs but then, as expected, a match winning partnership. Collectively India's was the best team and deserved to win.