This was a Good series for us

[Ankit_sharma03]

Win or losses, dnt give to much fck about bilateral . Key shud be to finding some answers to get the best order for 2023 Wc

 

Ill talk about positives

 

1. Krishna- needed a bowler for long time who has pace n bounce 
2. Siraj- high time he shud be an all format bowler.........happy that he got the full series 
3. Deepak chahar- We are struggling with wkts in PP and someone who can bat at 8...............always good to have options and he has become one 
4. Pant- with every knock i hope he gets better, indian team needs pant to come good 

 

Happy we found some answers in bowling as i feel that was more of a problem for us then batting 

[Lord]

can we judge bowling though against this WI side?

 

good they did well but WI almost presented no resistance

[vvvslaxman]

I like this series win because we didn't win with our familiar strength.  Top order hardly delivered in this series.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

can we judge bowling though against this WI side?

 

good they did well but WI almost presented no resistance

u need to see signs

 

For eg- case of sundar can be taken with a pinch of salt coz WI have struggled big time against even ireland spinner

Case of pace - prasidh pace n bounce remains same irrespective of batsman 

Case of chahar batting- he has produced quite a few innings now and all against diff attacks 

Siraj - we all know what a quality bowler he is, all the case was to give him a run in LOI and same with prasidh

 

[SK_IH]

Once again the crucial no 4-5 slot was messed around randomly in each game. Who are no 4 & 5 in the first XI? If TM has any ideas about answer to the question, then it's fine otherwise this becoming another initiation towards disaster  

Top 3 continue to make merry & get each game, however the middle order is treated like crap with no consistency.

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

can we judge bowling though against this WI side?

 

good they did well but WI almost presented no resistance

 

Yes. They looked unprofessional.  India could have experimented a bit more. Kohli could have been rested. Dhawan rested altogether alongwith KL Rahul.

[Jay]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Win or losses, dnt give to much fck about bilateral . Key shud be to finding some answers to get the best order for 2023 Wc

 

Ill talk about positives

 

1. Krishna- needed a bowler for long time who has pace n bounce 
2. Siraj- high time he shud be an all format bowler.........happy that he got the full series 
3. Deepak chahar- We are struggling with wkts in PP and someone who can bat at 8...............always good to have options and he has become one 
4. Pant- with every knock i hope he gets better, indian team needs pant to come good 

 

Happy we found some answers in bowling as i feel that was more of a problem for us then batting 

batting is woeful. batting has always been the problem. before it was an issue only in ICC ko matches. couldnt even bloody chase 238 lel. albeit in a day 2 pitch.

 

now:

rohit 34 looking washed up in LOI. still good in tests.

dhawan 35 i think

kohli looks 38 but whatever

 

 

just not good enough.

[ShoonyaSifar]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

can we judge bowling though against this WI side?

 

good they did well but WI almost presented no resistance

They will get a lot of confidence and import faster.

 

I'd add middle order batting as a positive. SKY, Pant, Rahul, Iyer and Washi showed resilience in the last 2 matches on tricky pitches

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

I like this series win because we didn't win with our familiar strength.  Top order hardly delivered in this series.

exactly i like quite a lot of series in last few yrs for same purpose, performances beyond top 3 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Once again the crucial no 4-5 slot was messed around randomly in each game. Who are no 4 & 5 in the first XI? If TM has any ideas about answer to the question, then it's fine otherwise this becoming another initiation towards disaster  

Top 3 continue to make merry & get each game, however the middle order is treated like crap with no consistency.

4-5 is set- Pant n KL....just that injuries have made it hard in last few series for them to play together 

Edited February 11, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

u need to see signs

 

For eg- case of sundar can be taken with a pinch of salt coz WI have struggled big time against even ireland spinner

Case of pace - prasidh pace n bounce remains same irrespective of batsman 

Case of chahar batting- he has produced quite a few innings now and all against diff attacks 

Siraj - we all know what a quality bowler he is, all the case was to give him a run in LOI and same with prasidh

 

 

not talking about talent. Prasidh for example tends to lose it when smashed specially in death overs in IPL.

 

Chahar again got swing and against poor bats. We already know he can do well there.

 

ofcourse good to have as many options as possible

[SK_IH]

Deepak Chahar hopefully will now be a certaintity for India now, he should have played all 3 ODIs this series. 

Coming to batting, if top 3 remain the same, there is little chance of changing any kind of approach. If Washington & SKY play games together, their places have to swapped, SKY should not be batting before 30-35 overs preferably. 

Middle to lower order of Pant-Rahul-Sundar-SKY-Deepak Chahar is damn good. If only we get another batsman who can bowl a bit in too 3, it will be awesome.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Lord said:

not talking about talent. Prasidh for example tends to lose it when smashed specially in death overs in IPL.

that he ll only learn with experience which means a lot of beatings

 

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

Chahar again got swing and against poor bats. We already know he can do well there.

 

ofcourse good to have as many options as possible

 

90% are poor bats against swing these days............guys like bairstow n roy are few i can think who can take him on well which is why i say he shudnt be guaranteed a spot but he is a very good option in squad now

[Lone Wolf]

Yes it was a fruitful series.  Still pissed that we wasted those 3 ODIs in SA.  Now next ODI series is quite far away vs England away I reckon. 

In Middle order SKY Pant should be backed in T20Is & they should feel secure about their place.   They will eventually find their feet in ODIs as well.  Rahul at no 5 is good enough.  I don't mind if we drop Rahul from T20s as he is playing Test & ODIs as well now. 

Kohli has to leave T20s as simple as that.  No need dude. 

 

[SK_IH]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

4-5 is set- Pant n KL....just that injuries have made it hard in last few series for them to play together 

Why was Pant sent in at 5 today then? Could have easily given break to Kohli & played Iyer at 3.

[bowl_out]

Some other things:

- Pant is better off at No.5 than opening.. He hits the ball hard and his game is more suited for middle and lower order hitting

- Top 3 is withering out fast.. We need Shaw and Ruturaj to play a few matches soon for succession planning

 

[prudent_kreeda]

3 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Once again the crucial no 4-5 slot was messed around randomly in each game. Who are no 4 & 5 in the first XI? If TM has any ideas about answer to the question, then it's fine otherwise this becoming another initiation towards disaster  

Top 3 continue to make merry & get each game, however the middle order is treated like crap with no consistency.

 

I think it was not a bad show by MO batters .Mind you this pitch is not total patta . Pace, bounce & some turn.  KL looked very good , Pant was good , Shreyas was scratchy but stuck it out , SKY got runs . So all 4 did rather well , not like what happened in SA. 

So more or less MO batters are identified, if one fails give chance to other among these. 

Concern is Top 3 together and more so #3 if virat cannot pull up. 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, BlueBlood said:

Oh wow we beat a second string WI team with only Pooran with experience rest all are youngsters to a large extent.

 

We could have tested Bishnoi AND so many players but noooo lets get Dhawan in idiot fans deserve idiot selections like this going gaga over a pathetic win against a minnow WI side.

 

Sundar played, Kulcha were tested. Prasidh was tested.Chahar was given a go. Thakur played. Ruturaj probably would have played but for Covid. Otherwise they did okay with selection except Dhawan/Rahul selection.

[SK_IH]

Overall I agree with @Lord here, there is nothing positive to take from beating this mediocre WI team in ODIs, i mean they were walloped in ODIs by Ireland in WI recently 

[vvvslaxman]

It also exposed our biggest weakness which is our fielding. Rohit was visibly unhappy. I am sure there will be discussion.