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Bumrah shouldn’t bowl with the new ball in LOIs


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Posted (edited)

Siraj

Deepak C

Bhuvi

W.Sundar

 

depending on the  combo these bowlers should bowl with the new ball


Bowlers who need to be kept away from new ball

Bumrah

Thakur 

Natarajan

Umran Malik

Harshal Patel

All the other spinners.

 

 

Undecided 

Prasidh: looks like another middle over bowler 

 

.

 

 

Only going by bowlers who are in the scheme of things. Not a wishlist.

Edited by maniac
Posted
12 minutes ago, maniac said:

Siraj

Deepak C

Bhuvi

W.Sundar

 

depending on the  combo these bowlers should bowl with the new ball


Bowlers who need to be kept away from new ball

Bumrah

Thakur 

Natarajan

Umran Malik

Harshal Patel

All the other spinners.

 

 

Undecided 

Prasidh: looks like another middle over bowler 

 

.

 

 

Only going by bowlers who are in the scheme of things. Not a wishlist.

Thakur should be kept away from LOIs.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Lord said:

Bumrah needs to rest in these useless series. Keep him fresh and fit so he can bowl at top speed

 

He gets plenty of rest doesn't he? He mostly plays overseas matches and IPL and a sprinkling stateside.

 

He has  lost his effectiveness compared to pre 2020.

Posted
18 minutes ago, AKane said:

He gets plenty of rest doesn't he? He mostly plays overseas matches and IPL and a sprinkling stateside

He sent down 439 overs(international) since jan 2021. Only Anderson bowled more than him in this period

Posted

Bumrah will be the answer to our middle overs problem. Even a Bumrah having an off day is not easy to hit. Perfect bowler for that phase.

 

look at Prasidh, he has done very well in ODIs in the middle overs.

 

With the red ball sure but with white ball Bumrah should only bowl between 15-50.

Posted
1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Those were cutters and slower balls.

 

Most of Bumrah's faster balls ere 140 -142 today.

 

But about 65% of his balls were slower balls.

On topic what are your thoughts on his new ball returns in the white ball format?

 

I don’t think he gets the ball to shape like he does with the red ball.

 

Even England use Wokes, Willey etc upfront or Aus with Hazelwood or Nzl with Southee-Boult. 
 

we need a good swing bowler. Obviously Pace + swing is a perfect combo like beauty with brains but only in theory but practically what do you think is the solution for our team  ?

 

I listed a few I think will be perfect in the power play. I feel Siraj will be a great new ball bowler even though unsure about his death bowling in LOIs. Deepak that’s pretty much his only skill.

Posted
46 minutes ago, maniac said:

On topic what are your thoughts on his new ball returns in the white ball format?

 

I don’t think he gets the ball to shape like he does with the red ball.

 

Even England use Wokes, Willey etc upfront or Aus with Hazelwood or Nzl with Southee-Boult. 
 

we need a good swing bowler. Obviously Pace + swing is a perfect combo like beauty with brains but only in theory but practically what do you think is the solution for our team  ?

 

I listed a few I think will be perfect in the power play. I feel Siraj will be a great new ball bowler even though unsure about his death bowling in LOIs. Deepak that’s pretty much his only skill.

 

In white ball cricket ....

 

Siraj and Chahar can be our new ball bowlers.

 

Siraj good at the death too.

 

Bumrah ideal for overs 7 to 50 in ODIs and overs 5 to 20 in T20s.

 

Prasidh is ideal for overs 6 to 45 in ODIs and decent at the death

 

Rotate these bowlers based on playing conditions and resting schedule.

Posted

Bumrah is among Ind’s top 3 pacers so he is expected to bowl in PP at least 1 over. Can bowl another one in the PP if required or in the MO, followed by 2 at the death. I don’t expect any changes to this pattern in the near term. 

Posted
5 hours ago, maniac said:

Bumrah will be the answer to our middle overs problem. Even a Bumrah having an off day is not easy to hit. Perfect bowler for that phase.

 

look at Prasidh, he has done very well in ODIs in the middle overs.

 

With the red ball sure but with white ball Bumrah should only bowl between 15-50.

Exactly. Excellent deduction from a terrific individual. I have been saying this for almost a year now. He is a perfect MO bowler in tests and even LOI. Tbh he shouldn't shouldn't bother with these t20 games. Not even t20 WC. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

agreed, bumrah is no beast like Shaheen Shah Afridi, he should let the other trundlers take the new ball instead

Shaheen isn't as good as prasidh let alone bumrah. Besides he is a chucker. 

Posted
11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Problem isnt his ability its the change in his lengths, Dnt know what Data guys are doing  or we dnt have one (jaago ganguly jaago ab to pakistan aur RCB ne bhi cricviz ko hire kr liya)

Explained much better here

 

 

BCCI has hired best TV analyst there is in cricket.  Cricviz guys are overrated 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

BCCI has hired best TV analyst there is in cricket.  Cricviz guys are overrated 

 

There is no one better then cricviz currently , who are these best analyst who didn't tell them where to bowl to rizwan in t20 Wc and they kept bowling to his strengh or shami wasnt a t20 bowler. If anything we have never used data properly which has been very obvious in recent years . Our ODI bowling is another classic both bumrah-bhuvi are struggling to get wkts in opening overs as compare to early coz they have pulled their lengths backs. IPL teams have far better analyst then Indian side  

Posted
14 hours ago, maniac said:

Siraj

Deepak C

Bhuvi

W.Sundar

 

depending on the  combo these bowlers should bowl with the new ball

bhuvi himself has been struggling with new ball in ODI for very very long now 

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