Why do we need Kohli in T20s?

[Texan]

His scoring rate has slowed down considerably over the last few years.

 

He can only bat in top 3 and is pretty useless if he was asked to bat lower down the order. That means that we cannot play our best bet at 3 on current form (Iyer) at 3. If Kohli opens with Rohit, that would mean our scoring rate in PP would be very slow. 

 

We have been successful in T20 cricket when we have left out old hags having declining performances and invested in new upcoming players who are more hungry for success. 

Edited February 27, 2022 by Texan

[Majestic]

I agree. There is no need of current Kohli in T20 setup. But he wants reward for what he did in this format for so many years. So, he will stay and is not going anywhere. Preferably, the best batting lineup India can play in T20Is is :

 

Rohit(c)

KL/Pant(wkt)

Shreyas

Pant/KL

SKY

Pandya/Venky

Jadeja

 

This should be our team in T20Is and need something similar in ODIs too. Shreyas at the moment is also willing to bowl if required. So, this is what the positive mindset that we need here.

[Rantzz]

All said and done, Kohli is still a much better T20 batsman than tuk tuk Sharma.

 

so you can’t drop Kohli before dropping Rohit

[Texan]

If we play Kohli, how are things going to be different from our last WT20 disaster? Just a different captain, but same team. Expect same results also. 

[Texan]

Just now, Rantzz said:

All said and done, Kohli is still a much better T20 batsman than tuk tuk Sharma.

 

so you can’t drop Kohli before dropping Rohit

Rohit brings value as a captain who has won 5 IPL trophies at least. 

[SK_IH]

I have been saying this since last 2 years, absolutely not needed in T20 cricket. 

[rollingstoned]

past series has made the case for dropping seniors altogether, barring Rohit for his captaincy. Kohli has limitations at no. 3 and is only useful as an anchor. 

[Majestic]

10 minutes ago, Cricspin said:

 

 

Nicely put.  

 

Rohit

Pant

Shreyas

KLR

SKY

Venky / Pandya ( if he bowls and BCCI can correctly identify his fitness secret)

Jadeja

Thakur/ D Chahar (Someone who can bat but not Patel)

Siraj/Prasidh

Bishnoi/Kuldeep/Chahal << Specialist spinner

Bumrah

 

That can be a good starting 11.

 

 

 

Perfect team. Between Deepak Chahar and Shardul, I will pick DC in LOIs as he is a wicket taker upfront. Prasidh is lock in ODIs and Siraj should be in T20s too. Hopefully, the management learns it after this IPL season.

 

 

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Texan said:

If we play Kohli, how are things going to be different from our last WT20 disaster? Just a different captain, but same team. Expect same results also. 

Its Indian stupidity at its best if they drop Iyer for Kohli.

 

Madness at its peak.

[neel roy]

In aus you cant win with hack techniques of samson iyer. You need technically solid batsmen who can hold their shape while hitting aerial shots. The boundaries in mcg scg are 80 85 metres. Dharmsala is 65 m. Mishits dont go to stands in aus. It goes to hands. In aus the premium currency is 2s and 3s and finding gaps in huge outfields and hard running. You cant hit sixes every ball. So while deciding a team you need to lock in these factors..

[Vijy]

two things to note. first, TM won't drop Brat so he ain't going anywhere. second, on certain pitches, Brat still has value - and I say this as someone who has, and will continue to, criticize him repeatedly. if the pitch is one where 130-140 is considered a good total, he can be selected. otherwise, it would make sense to go with a more explosive player

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, Cricspin said:

 

 

Nicely put.  

 

Rohit

Pant

Shreyas

KLR

SKY

Venky / Pandya ( if he bowls and BCCI can correctly identify his fitness secret)

Jadeja

Thakur/ D Chahar (Someone who can bat but not Patel)

Siraj/Prasidh

Bishnoi/Kuldeep/Chahal << Specialist spinner

Bumrah

 

That can be a good starting 11.

 

 

 

if people click in their roles, it would indeed be a very solid team. however, pant has not had enough chances to shape his game as opener. would rather see someone like shaw in the mix. shreyas is also iffy against pace and bounce. but this is indeed a good XI otherwise

[cricketfan28]

Sarma and Kohli have the experience and we need that.

[Jay]

5 hours ago, neel roy said:

In aus you cant win with hack techniques of samson iyer. You need technically solid batsmen who can hold their shape while hitting aerial shots. The boundaries in mcg scg are 80 85 metres. Dharmsala is 65 m. Mishits dont go to stands in aus. It goes to hands. In aus the premium currency is 2s and 3s and finding gaps in huge outfields and hard running. You cant hit sixes every ball. So while deciding a team you need to lock in these factors..

You also don't need kohli type batsmen in aus

[Sean Bradley]

Let alone Kohli, I don't think we even need Rohit in T20s. BCCI should keep an age cap of 32 Years for T20s. Once the Player turns 32, he should be Daddoed out of the Team. That would Bring in the youngsters automatically and keep the fans exciting. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

  

6 hours ago, neel roy said:

In aus you cant win with hack techniques of samson iyer. You need technically solid batsmen who can hold their shape while hitting aerial shots. The boundaries in mcg scg are 80 85 metres. Dharmsala is 65 m. Mishits dont go to stands in aus. It goes to hands. In aus the premium currency is 2s and 3s and finding gaps in huge outfields and hard running. You cant hit sixes every ball. So while deciding a team you need to lock in these factors..

 

Kohli should step aside on his own. HE has played enough. Should focus on other formats and leave the T20 to youngsters. As far as doing well in Australia goes Finch is a certified hack. Guys like Chris lynn are a big hits there. Kohli was a T20 legend for a period. That is over now. He hasn't reached absolute nadir like Yuvraj did. He doesn't have to wait for that to happen. We backed some old guys and paid the price in the past. We shouldn't be doing the same mistake in the name of "technique". That is how Rahane managed to prolong his career. "Technique". 

[Adamant]

Yeah Haha.

 

I can already see Shreyas Iyer being cleaned up by a Jaffa from Shaheen after Rohit and Rahul were already bamboozled, leaving us at 10-3.

 

Kamzor muqabil hai to faulad hai momin. 

 

These lines apply aptly on Shreyas Iyer. Don't take his performance against SriLanka B seriously. 

 

Replacing Kohli with Iyer is like replacing a JEE Advance topper with a UP board topper. 

 

Level hi alag hai. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

30 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Yeah Haha.

 

I can already see Shreyas Iyer being cleaned up by a Jaffa from Shaheen after Rohit and Rahul were already bamboozled, leaving us at 10-3.

 

Kamzor muqabil hai to faulad hai momin. 

 

These lines apply aptly on Shreyas Iyer. Don't take his performance against SriLanka B seriously. 

 

Replacing Kohli with Iyer is like replacing a JEE Advance topper with a UP board topper. 

 

Level hi alag hai. 

 

 

You can pretty much say the same about every Indian player lol There is not a single batsman without some weakness.

[Adamant]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

You can pretty much say the same about every Indian player lol There is not a single batsman without some weakness.

There's not a single batsman in the history of world cricket without a weakness apart from Bradman. 

 

Iyer has too many of those. 

[Jay]

44 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Yeah Haha.

 

I can already see Shreyas Iyer being cleaned up by a Jaffa from Shaheen after Rohit and Rahul were already bamboozled, leaving us at 10-3.

 

Kamzor muqabil hai to faulad hai momin. 

 

These lines apply aptly on Shreyas Iyer. Don't take his performance against SriLanka B seriously. 

 

Replacing Kohli with Iyer is like replacing a JEE Advance topper with a UP board topper. 

 

Level hi alag hai. 

 

A UP board topper can still top the JEE too. He just has tried for it yet. Rote learning doesn't make one a genius. Anyway that's besides the point. I agree iyer is no where near as good as prime kohli in t20. Long way to go.