Adamant Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. Lord 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Adamant said: Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. Christian community produces Dan Christian? What does religion get anything to do with bowling? Mosher and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Christian community produces Dan Christian? What does religion get anything to do with bowling? It has a lot. But I won't explain it here coz people have inferiority complex. sage 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Adamant said: It has a lot. But I won't explain it here coz people have inferiority complex. How does religion which has nothing to do with genetics, blood anything can enhance your bowling skill. Hope the religion helps them in other sports as well lol Mosher 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Adamant said: Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. They also gave Aizaz Cheema, Rana Naved, Rao Iftikhar Anjum in Pakistan. rollingstoned and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Jay Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Adamant said: It has a lot. But I won't explain it here coz people have inferiority complex. Muslims are genetically weak yes. We all saw how Pakistani fare in wrestling in Olympics and even CW games where india rapes them routinely. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Christian community produces Dan Christian? What does religion get anything to do with bowling? This vommalai hasn't seen rural tamil nadu, rural andhra and rural kerala. Farm workers even 60 year olds lift 80 kg plus and carry around loads all day long. rollingstoned, vvvslaxman and Stan AF 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Adamant said: We both know that this is nothing but a coping mechanism and a lie. How long will you continue with this? What coping mechanism ! All these are facts. Top 11 quickest pacers and 5 of the 6 tall hit the deck pacers were not picked. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: Opportunities were given to them. The top 10 in ipl 2022 were : 1. Umran- got destroyed and smashed all around the park by Ireland. Indeed ! Umran has bowled just 9 overs in international cricket and you have come out with a verdict of rejection. It also included an over where he was able to defend his team's score in the 20th over and win it for his team. All express bowlers are erratic at the start of their careers. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: 2.Mohd Shami - well, one of the worst ever t20i bowler, if you are taking him on ipl performances than why leave out Dhawan? Shami may not be the best T20 bowler but he is a PP wicket taker in the last few years. And he has played just 17 T20Is in a scattered manner. If he had played regularly, he would not be any worse than Bhuvi in terms of taking wickets. Dhawan is no worse than Kohli of the last 2 years. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: 4. Prasidh Krishna - tonked around in t20is after ipl, even ipl performance wasn't good enough and even you say that he isn't a t20 bowler. Stop spreading lies. Prasidh is yet to debut in T20Is. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: 7. Umesh - lol, see what happened yesterday? Not a aupporter of Umesh in T20s. But he was better than T20 specialists Bhuvi and Harshal. He actually picked 2 big wickets. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: 8. Khaleel - ok, not given opportunity but he is a mediocre bowler. Just your opinion. He has a high wickets per match ratio in the IPL, in ODIs, in List A and in T20s overall. 7 hours ago, Adamant said: , rest all is just a coping mechanism to make Indian fans feel good about their bowling. That's how Pakistanis are supposed to feel. So, I understand. Edited September 22, 2022 by express bowling Swag, zen and Mosher 3 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, express bowling said: What coping mechanism ! All these are facts. Top 11 quickest pacers and 5 of the 6 tall hit the deck pacers were not picked. Indeed ! Umran has bowled just 9 overs in international cricket and you have come out with a verdict of rejection. It also included an over where he was able to defend his team's score in the 20th over and win it for his team. All express bowlers are erratic at the start of their careers. Shami may not be the best T20 bowler but he is a PP wicket taker in the last few years. And he has played just 17 T20Is in a scattered manner. If he had played regularly, he would not be any worse than Bhuvi in terms of taking wickets. Dhawan is no worse than Kohli of the last 2 years. Stop spreading lies. Prasidh is yet to debut in T20Is. Not a aupporter of Umesh in T20s. But he was better than T20 specialists Bhuvi and Harshal. He actually picked 2 big wickets. Just your opinion. He has a high wickets per match ratio in the IPL, in ODIs, in List A and in T20s overall. That how Pakistanis are supposed to feel. So, I understand. None of these tape ball bowlers they are creaming over would have played for India by the time they have for Pakistan due to the competition yet India is a talent bankrupt nation. lmao. larpers of the inbred variety give themselves away sooner or later. Swag, express bowling and Mosher 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: None of these tape ball bowlers they are creaming over would have played for India by the time they have for Pakistan due to the competition yet India is a talent bankrupt nation. lmao. larpers of the inbred variety give themselves away sooner or later. Exactly ! Mosher and rollingstoned 2 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Adamant said: Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. Same muslim community in bangladesh produces what now? Swag 1 Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 hours ago, express bowling said: What coping mechanism ! All these are facts. Top 11 quickest pacers and 5 of the 6 tall hit the deck pacers were not picked. Indeed ! Umran has bowled just 9 overs in international cricket and you have come out with a verdict of rejection. It also included an over where he was able to defend his team's score in the 20th over and win it for his team. All express bowlers are erratic at the start of their careers. Shami may not be the best T20 bowler but he is a PP wicket taker in the last few years. And he has played just 17 T20Is in a scattered manner. If he had played regularly, he would not be any worse than Bhuvi in terms of taking wickets. Dhawan is no worse than Kohli of the last 2 years. Stop spreading lies. Prasidh is yet to debut in T20Is. Not a aupporter of Umesh in T20s. But he was better than T20 specialists Bhuvi and Harshal. He actually picked 2 big wickets. Just your opinion. He has a high wickets per match ratio in the IPL, in ODIs, in List A and in T20s overall. That how Pakistanis are supposed to feel. So, I understand. There's no rejection of Umran, but he is not ready as of now. I think even you said the same. Umesh and Shami have never been good in t20is, how will that change in their last few years? Mohsin, I understand, he is a good bowler who should have got some chances. As for Khaleel, time will tell, I don't think he has anything special in his bowling, doesn't extract good movement, pace is okayish and no steep bounce. Link to comment
Swag Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 18 hours ago, maniac said: you have to be a little intimidating as a bowler. Not just fast bowler but even for spinners. Warne used to be hit for a 6 but used to act like he got hit for a 6 on purpose and it was a set up. Sachin too, he used to outfox the batsman and play a mind game due to his aura (frequently used these days). I know it’s not much but my experience from gully cricket days, there was this guy in my apartments- very good spinner. Even made it to Haris shield school level (in Mumbai it’s a big deal). His bowling was very intimidating to us. One day a kid from the next building hit him for 3 6’s and after the match got beat up by him ( non-cricket way). After that it just added to his aura and his bowling was even more difficult. We need a couple of bowlers like that :) the non-cricketing beat up plan would have worked except we have Chahal and Bhuvi.....imagine that! Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 vvvslaxman, sarcastic, rollingstoned and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Jay Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: But that's an unfair comparison.cmon. Atg level player bumrah to this vommalai. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jay said: But that's an unfair comparison.cmon. Atg level player bumrah to this vommalai. It shows how easy it is to hit Harshal for sixes. Edited September 22, 2022 by rkt.india Link to comment
Jay Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: It shows how easy it is to hit Harshal for sixes. I know but can't compare useless fodder to bumrah lol. Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Adamant said: Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. Yeah and they also produced Haqqani, Mullah Omar, Hafeez Saeed and many other World renowned talent but we are yet produce one of such calibre. Closest we had was Dawood but even he went on to play for a better team. Swag, Hell Raiser, raki05 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Adamant Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Yeah and they also produced Haqqani, Mullah Omar, Hafeez Saeed and many other World renowned talent but we are yet produce one of such calibre. Closest we had was Dawood but even he went on to play for a better team. You are taking that comment to a whole other topic. I didn't mean what you infer. Link to comment
Majestic Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Adamant said: Muslim community produces Akram, younis, Imran, Akhtar, Shaheen in Pakistan and in India they give us Zaheer (33 avg), Khaleel, Avesh etc. Zaheer won you a series in England and ODI World Cup 2011 as lead bowler. Shaheen hasn't achieved anywhere close to that. express bowling, rollingstoned, raki05 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
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