Indian spearhead - Bhuvi v SA spearhead - Nortje (T20WC22)

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

kis kis ko chahiye tha yaha rabada 

[Number]

Very very overrated in T20s. By the time his rhythm sets in he is gone for plenty of runs and spell is over.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Rabada record in Aus has gotten even worse 

 

Matches - 8

wkts- 3

Avg 74.33

Eco - 9.33

s/r - 48 

[Serpico]

This WC is full of surprises. I thought bhuvi would get massacred in Aus (can still get in semi) but he was quite economical

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Serpico said:

This WC is full of surprises. I thought bhuvi would get massacred in Aus (can still get in semi) but he was quite economical

 

Pehle bhi tha , nothing surprising both with bhuvi or rabada

these are their numbers before Wc in Aus 

 

On 10/9/2022 at 6:23 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Bhuvi vs Rabada in Australia

 

Bhuvi                    vs                 Rabadas 

3 matches                                 3 matches  

34 avg                                      73 avg

6.80 eco                                    9.13 eco

30 s/r                                        48 s/r

 

[Norman]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

how it started 

 

 

how it ended 

 

 

 

 

[Chakdephatte]

On 10/9/2022 at 5:41 PM, express bowling said:

White ball cricket, and even more so T20 cricket, is about seizing the big moments and acing the crunch situations. It is not about overall stats of a player.

 

That is called a crunch player who seizes the big moments and helps his team win big tournaments.

 

I want such crunch players. I don't want the stats padders who look after themselves by performing well in low key games. 

 

Yes. Key moments against Netherlands. Wasn't even a choke.

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Chakdephatte

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

Yes. Key moments against Netherlands. Wasn't even a choke.

 

 

 

So Rabada can't seize the key moments in important  T20Is.

 

The SA selectors should drop him from T20Is then if they have the guts. 

 

Why are Indian fans trying to hide the inadequacy of their bowlers based on Rabada's poor T20I temperament  !!

[zen]

R A B A D A over Bhuvi despite SA being out of the WC 

 

Even IPL teams have spent twice as much on Rabada (9.25 cr) than on Bhuvi (4.20 cr) 

 

[Suhaan]

Boobie lovers aren't even waiting for SF

[coffee_rules]

 

[zen]

 

 

[rkt.india]

Litton ne lita diya tha. Netherland, Zim ko chhod do to wickets nahi nikle bhai se. Sardarji ne bacha rakha ab tak.

[singhvivek141]

Rabada's form in T20 has gone down, someone who used to match Nortje pace by pace is now operating in Ngidi's speed range...those Yorkers are completely missing which used to castle likes of Russell at 148kph.

 

But despite of that he is no doubt the best bowler for RSA all formats combined.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

So Rabada can't seize the key moments in important  T20Is.

 

The SA selectors should drop him from T20Is then if they have the guts. 

 

Why are Indian fans trying to hide the inadequacy of their bowlers based on Rabada's poor T20I temperament  !!

that is indian "logic" at its finest

[Chakdephatte]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

So Rabada can't seize the key moments in important  T20Is.

The SA selectors should drop him from T20Is then if they have the guts. 

Why are Indian fans trying to hide the inadequacy of their bowlers based on Rabada's poor T20I temperament  !!

 

Stop using your key moments excuse atleast now. When you don't perform in 90% of games, it doesn't matter. How do you predict which player turns up in a big match anyway?

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

But despite of that he is no doubt the best bowler for RSA all formats combined.

SA best bowler is nortje 

Rabada for own sake shud retire from one format , he has been preserving himself so he doesnt give his 100% . His number are just getting worse and worse in t20i 

In ODI also - bumrah, starc, archer, shami, shaheen, nortje,boult , hazelwood all avg better and are doing a better job for their teams. 

If he keeps bowling like this his avg of 27 in ODI which by no means suits his standard will keep going down . 

 

The yorker ur talking was 3 yrs old and he has started to bowl within himself after that . 

[singhvivek141]

30 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

SA best bowler is nortje 

Rabada for own sake shud retire from one format , he has been preserving himself so he doesnt give his 100% . His number are just getting worse and worse in t20i 

In ODI also - bumrah, starc, archer, shami, shaheen, nortje,boult , hazelwood all avg better and are doing a better job for their teams. 

If he keeps bowling like this his avg of 27 in ODI which by no means suits his standard will keep going down . 

 

The yorker ur talking was 3 yrs old and he has started to bowl within himself after that . 

Nortje has to play a bit more (atleast 25 Tests or 50 ODI's) and sustain that performance before claiming that, Rabada has carried the SA load for a long time across formats with performance.

Rabada has been treated the same way Srinath was, bowling relentlessly spells after spells, it was bound to take an impact on the body. If I am not wrong Rabada once bowled most number of spells for a young fast bowler than any other nation. Steyn was managed well by RSA due to presence of good support bowlers, Rabada unfortunately didn't had that luxury.

[Clarke]

Ironically Arsh has become the spearhead.

[express bowling]

11 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

Stop using your key moments excuse atleast now. When you don't perform in 90% of games, it doesn't matter. How do you predict which player turns up in a big match anyway?

 

Players don't fall from the sky.

 

They play U19, then State Level, then A team games and / or the  IPL and then play for India. And older players have a lot of international match data too.

 

It's not difficult to see who the clutch players are.

 

Winning the big matches, big test series and big LOI tournaments are the most important things in cricket. Our twin Test series wins in Australia and our 3 World Cups are worth a 100 times than low key bilateral.LOIs and test series wins vs current SL, BD etc. 

 

And the performances which helped us achieve these will be worth a lot more too. And this logic applies to every team.

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2022 by express bowling